Poles actually do permanently consume non renewable resources. There is only so much room for a pole line along most streets and roads. Once that room is consumed it is gone. Even private easements are “perpetual” and “run with the land”.
From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city where is my popcorn... ----- Original Message ----- From: Jaime Solorza To: Animal Farm Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city I will stand in for Chuck, not that he needs help, just haven't tangled in a while... Getting rusty On Sep 17, 2016 9:23 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: So, will chuck and jared be gladiator fighting in the cage after Patrick and whoever challenges him ? On Sep 17, 2016 5:10 AM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" <jeffl...@att.net> wrote: Great post Jared! Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Sep 17, 2016, at 1:16 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote: From: chuck Why should you even get access to my ducts or my poles in the first place? Because you put them in the public right of way. If you want private ducts and poles, go negotiate your own easements and build on private land. I paid to have them put in for my use. So you did. We, the public, still get to set the rules (by proxy) on how the poles are to be used on "our" land. I realize it is somewhat the "law of the commons" but even then, those who file for a mining claim get the spoils of the mine. This is just a different kind of mine. The mines analogy isn't really suitable as cables on poles do not permanently consume non-renewable resources. You still pay an attachment fee because you forced the upgrade of my pole. That only makes sense if I had to pay you until the old pole was paid off. After that you should pay me. You should be grateful there is a pole there you can use in the first place. What's there to be grateful about? I just put in my own damn pole. If there was an existing pole there I could use, you should be grateful for me paying it off for you. Why not break out your horizontal directional drill and stay the hell off my poles. Let's see how you like that argument when I pass an ordinance to underground all utilities. Just because you were the first one to put in a pole, does not mean you should be the only one allowed to benefit from the public right of way. (Chuck McCown is playing the part of the pissed off, privately owned, electrical utility in today's episode. Chuck McCown is not actually a pole owner but he plays one on TV). Jared is playing the part of the outraged and righteous member of public. In real life Jared is just an ordinary citizen. Jared