I'll grant you that there is only so much space for poles. However, I used the qualifier not permanently to denote that poles do get replaced, either to make room for more cables or because they have a finite lifetime. Hence my argument is that while poles do consume non-renevable resources, the consumption is not permanent and final, as new poles will replace old ones.
Jared > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 6:46 PM > From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city > > Poles actually do permanently consume non renewable resources. There is only > so much room for a pole line along most streets and roads. Once that room is > consumed it is gone. Even private easements are “perpetual” and “run with > the land”. > > From: CBB - Jay Fuller > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:53 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city > > > where is my popcorn... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jaime Solorza > To: Animal Farm > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 10:38 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city > > I will stand in for Chuck, not that he needs help, just haven't tangled in > a while... Getting rusty > > > On Sep 17, 2016 9:23 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" > <[email protected]> wrote: > > So, will chuck and jared be gladiator fighting in the cage after Patrick > and whoever challenges him ? > > > On Sep 17, 2016 5:10 AM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Great post Jared! > > Jeff Broadwick > ConVergence Technologies, Inc. > 312-205-2519 Office > 574-220-7826 Cell > [email protected] > > On Sep 17, 2016, at 1:16 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > From: chuck > > > > Why should you even get access to my ducts or my poles in the first > place? > > Because you put them in the public right of way. > If you want private ducts and poles, go negotiate your own easements > and build on private land. > > > I paid to have them put in for my use. > > So you did. We, the public, still get to set the rules (by proxy) on > how the poles are to be used on "our" land. > > > I realize it is somewhat the "law of > > the commons" but even then, those who file for a mining claim get > the spoils > > of the mine. This is just a different kind of mine. > > The mines analogy isn't really suitable as cables on poles do not > permanently consume non-renewable resources. > > > You still pay an attachment fee because you forced the upgrade of > my pole. > > That only makes sense if I had to pay you until the old pole was paid > off. After that you should pay me. > > > You should be grateful there is a pole there you can use in the > first place. > > What's there to be grateful about? I just put in my own damn pole. > If there was an existing pole there I could use, you should be > grateful for me paying it off for you. > > > Why not break out your horizontal directional drill and stay the > hell off my > > poles. > > Let's see how you like that argument when I pass an ordinance to > underground all utilities. > > Just because you were the first one to put in a pole, does not mean > you should be the only one allowed to benefit from the public right of way. > > > (Chuck McCown is playing the part of the pissed off, privately > owned, > > electrical utility in today's episode. Chuck McCown is not > actually a pole > > owner but he plays one on TV). > > Jared is playing the part of the outraged and righteous member of > public. In real life Jared is just an ordinary citizen. > > Jared >
