An even better tv series.....

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From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
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Subject: [AFMUG] OT. Trump's supporters talk rebellion, assassination at his 
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Date: Sun, Oct 16, 2016 11:03 PM

That'd be an interesting read.
Josh Luthman

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On Oct 16, 2016 11:57 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:I wrote 
a lengthy paper in college about "What if there was a civil war in the US?
The entire west coast and the north east end up having the best / largest 
ports, the majority of modern goods and services, and the best academic 
institutions. The south and midwest have production capability and agriculture, 
but its limited to the levels of the 40s and 50s without support from the major 
ports and international treaties. Alaska ends up breaking away to become its 
own country, but possibly a Canadian territory due to supply lanes, oil, and 
the large fishing industry - this allows it to trade with its only 
land-connected partner.
Texas breaks away and tries to do its own thing for awhile. Likely builds a 
(larger) wall between it and Mexico. After a few years it realizes it no longer 
has the manpower to fuel its agricultural and essential services needs and 
reopens trade and borders with Mexico but from a much weaker position.
Ports on the mideast and southeast and the gulf can't handle the size of ships 
the south and midwest really need for low cost goods, and much of the shipping 
logistics end up taking much, much longer.
There's more and its quite complicated from several angles, I was just doing 
the best I could in the time allowed. Ended up with an A+, so it had to be at 
least somewhat decent/factual.
Basically, it ends up being a giant cluster fuck. More "Baltic states / E/W 
Germany" than "Modern Europe".

On Oct 16, 2016 10:37 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> 
wrote:Most of us are only a relatively few generations down from someone that 
had the guts to leave their home country and come here to create a new life.



That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:




Drive and available cash flow are very much unrelated. We are an enigma. We 
have a huge prcentage of driven, breeding with driven, over a couple centuries, 
why do you think we drive innovation above most nations, all nations on a mean. 
The facts on the slave elements mentioned are we bred physical traits from the 
success negative element fom them. That statement sounds like something from a 
white supremacist garbage can. But sometimes truths sit in garbage cans.





On Oct 16, 2016 9:55 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com 
<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:



    Hmmm. I think history would prove that attitude and drive is not

    genetic. Or at least the fact that the riches of a family seldom

    stay in the family past a couple generations would lead one to

    believe that genetics has little to do with success. That is an

    interesting position. Genetically diverse yes, predisposed to

    drive, success, or any other positive trait, I don't think so. It

    seems to me that the evidence points to nurture over nature in

    this regard.



    On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 9:48 PM That One Guy /sarcasm

    <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:



        The absolute most common trait in success is drive. Driven

        people flocked to the us, my grandfather walked across Germany

        to get to a boat to come here. That's not uncommon among

        immigrants, even the current ones from South of the border and

        South of the borders border that have walked here.

        We took Africa and Irelands people @nd bred the best stock

        over and over. The US is in fact genetically superior to the

        rest of the planet because we have the rest 9f the planets

        best genes.

        Our nutjobs, even they are superior genetically.. Fuck balls





        On Oct 16, 2016 9:35 PM, "Lewis Bergman"

        <lewis.berg...@gmail.com <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:



            With all our problems. All our faults. Even all our

            inflated egos. We give more pet capita than any other to

            other countries. Not the government's gifts, private

            donations. People still come here from all over for a

            chance to be rewarded for their hard work like no other

            country will allow them to be rewarded.



            Racist? Sure. Bigoted? Many. But I thrill to watch the US

            in the Olympics as it is one of few countries you cannot

            determine by race.



            Will the rest of the world be worse off when we fall? By

            that time, probably not. We have already outlived most

            government's and are a bit long in the tooth. Sure, others

            have long histories and the same names but not the same

            government's.



            I am proud to enjoy it while it lasts knowing nothing ever

            stays the same and that no matter what I want or do I have

            no control over it. My grandchildren, if I am so lucky,

            will have a completely different America to live in than I

            did from my grandparents. Most of that is likely to be an

            improvement.



            In a republic we have few to blame but ourselves. We all

            deserve the government we allow to rule over us. Enjoy the

            ride my friends. It ends the same for us all.





            On Sun, Oct 16, 2016, 8:36 PM Jaime Solorza

            <losguyswirel...@gmail.com

            <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:



                Even Pence is cautiously distancing himself from the

                rigged vote paranoia..  The Republicans really  tried

                to change voter ID laws in different states.   They

                failed..  I know folks who had to take literacy tests

                in order to vote back in 60s.  We will not go back to

                that..  Ever.. America has changed... Too many

                educated folks know better than to allow narrow minded

                bigots to take over our system.   Some groups are

                planning violence as what happened with Kansas militia

                against immigrants.... Yeah right like most US born

                folks would jump at chance to work in a chicken

                processing factory.    I told my far right friend that

                the sleeping giant would be awaken.    Voter

                registration is super high in many minority

                communities... November 8 will be here sooner than you

                want





                On Oct 16, 2016 7:15 PM, "Jaime Solorza"

                <losguyswirel...@gmail.com

                <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:



                    Yep Paul..  I agree





                    On Oct 16, 2016 6:42 PM, "Paul Stewart"

                    <p...@paulstewart.org

                    <mailto:p...@paulstewart.org>> wrote:



                        Rest my case….








                        On Oct 16, 2016, at 8:37 PM, That One Guy

                        /sarcasm <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com

                        <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:



                        Our dollar it does, our military it did.

                        Might and money are the only two things that

                        actually control globalism. Name one single

                        country that would not have a major impact if

                        we pulled either from the global stage. .

                        None is the answer





                        On Oct 16, 2016 7:31 PM, "Paul Stewart"

                        <p...@paulstewart.org

                        <mailto:p...@paulstewart.org>> wrote:



                            Not sure I agree with this …. the US is

                            one very large and powerful country yes …

                            but (and I’m not trying to stir

                            controversy here despite it sounding like

                            it) it’s one country out of many … and

                            there are many other large and powerful

                            countries out there.  I’m not saying that

                            the US isn’t a major player and that some

                            countries hurt more than others when

                            things happen in the US but the “world”

                            doesn’t centre around the US as much as

                            Americans seem to think it does






                            On Oct 16, 2016, at 7:15 PM, That One

                            Guy /sarcasm <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com

                            <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:



                            If you want to feel sorry for anybody,

                            feel sorry for the majority of the

                            planet who has become accustomed to

                            riding the coat tails of the US in one

                            major way or another. If and when we

                            fall, it will be a disaster globally.

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