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----- Reply message ----- From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: [AFMUG] OT. Trump's supporters talk rebellion, assassination at his rallies Date: Sun, Oct 16, 2016 11:03 PM That'd be an interesting read. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 16, 2016 11:57 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote:I wrote a lengthy paper in college about "What if there was a civil war in the US? The entire west coast and the north east end up having the best / largest ports, the majority of modern goods and services, and the best academic institutions. The south and midwest have production capability and agriculture, but its limited to the levels of the 40s and 50s without support from the major ports and international treaties. Alaska ends up breaking away to become its own country, but possibly a Canadian territory due to supply lanes, oil, and the large fishing industry - this allows it to trade with its only land-connected partner. Texas breaks away and tries to do its own thing for awhile. Likely builds a (larger) wall between it and Mexico. After a few years it realizes it no longer has the manpower to fuel its agricultural and essential services needs and reopens trade and borders with Mexico but from a much weaker position. Ports on the mideast and southeast and the gulf can't handle the size of ships the south and midwest really need for low cost goods, and much of the shipping logistics end up taking much, much longer. There's more and its quite complicated from several angles, I was just doing the best I could in the time allowed. Ended up with an A+, so it had to be at least somewhat decent/factual. Basically, it ends up being a giant cluster fuck. More "Baltic states / E/W Germany" than "Modern Europe". On Oct 16, 2016 10:37 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <[email protected]> wrote:Most of us are only a relatively few generations down from someone that had the guts to leave their home country and come here to create a new life. That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: Drive and available cash flow are very much unrelated. We are an enigma. We have a huge prcentage of driven, breeding with driven, over a couple centuries, why do you think we drive innovation above most nations, all nations on a mean. The facts on the slave elements mentioned are we bred physical traits from the success negative element fom them. That statement sounds like something from a white supremacist garbage can. But sometimes truths sit in garbage cans. On Oct 16, 2016 9:55 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hmmm. I think history would prove that attitude and drive is not genetic. Or at least the fact that the riches of a family seldom stay in the family past a couple generations would lead one to believe that genetics has little to do with success. That is an interesting position. Genetically diverse yes, predisposed to drive, success, or any other positive trait, I don't think so. It seems to me that the evidence points to nurture over nature in this regard. On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 9:48 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: The absolute most common trait in success is drive. Driven people flocked to the us, my grandfather walked across Germany to get to a boat to come here. That's not uncommon among immigrants, even the current ones from South of the border and South of the borders border that have walked here. We took Africa and Irelands people @nd bred the best stock over and over. The US is in fact genetically superior to the rest of the planet because we have the rest 9f the planets best genes. Our nutjobs, even they are superior genetically.. Fuck balls On Oct 16, 2016 9:35 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: With all our problems. All our faults. Even all our inflated egos. We give more pet capita than any other to other countries. Not the government's gifts, private donations. People still come here from all over for a chance to be rewarded for their hard work like no other country will allow them to be rewarded. Racist? Sure. Bigoted? Many. But I thrill to watch the US in the Olympics as it is one of few countries you cannot determine by race. Will the rest of the world be worse off when we fall? By that time, probably not. We have already outlived most government's and are a bit long in the tooth. Sure, others have long histories and the same names but not the same government's. I am proud to enjoy it while it lasts knowing nothing ever stays the same and that no matter what I want or do I have no control over it. My grandchildren, if I am so lucky, will have a completely different America to live in than I did from my grandparents. Most of that is likely to be an improvement. In a republic we have few to blame but ourselves. We all deserve the government we allow to rule over us. Enjoy the ride my friends. It ends the same for us all. On Sun, Oct 16, 2016, 8:36 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Even Pence is cautiously distancing himself from the rigged vote paranoia.. The Republicans really tried to change voter ID laws in different states. They failed.. I know folks who had to take literacy tests in order to vote back in 60s. We will not go back to that.. Ever.. America has changed... Too many educated folks know better than to allow narrow minded bigots to take over our system. Some groups are planning violence as what happened with Kansas militia against immigrants.... Yeah right like most US born folks would jump at chance to work in a chicken processing factory. I told my far right friend that the sleeping giant would be awaken. Voter registration is super high in many minority communities... November 8 will be here sooner than you want On Oct 16, 2016 7:15 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Yep Paul.. I agree On Oct 16, 2016 6:42 PM, "Paul Stewart" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Rest my case…. On Oct 16, 2016, at 8:37 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Our dollar it does, our military it did. Might and money are the only two things that actually control globalism. Name one single country that would not have a major impact if we pulled either from the global stage. . None is the answer On Oct 16, 2016 7:31 PM, "Paul Stewart" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Not sure I agree with this …. the US is one very large and powerful country yes … but (and I’m not trying to stir controversy here despite it sounding like it) it’s one country out of many … and there are many other large and powerful countries out there. I’m not saying that the US isn’t a major player and that some countries hurt more than others when things happen in the US but the “world” doesn’t centre around the US as much as Americans seem to think it does On Oct 16, 2016, at 7:15 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: If you want to feel sorry for anybody, feel sorry for the majority of the planet who has become accustomed to riding the coat tails of the US in one major way or another. If and when we fall, it will be a disaster globally.
