I suppose it depends on which side of your ancestry you identify with.

Jaime Solorza wrote:

And some of us were here first and got conquered, exterminated, fucked... Had our land taken, women raped and children murdered. Many of us lost our culture and had to assimilate to survive... Very different from my ancestors perspective... On a side note... Look up the meaning of the Dine ' (Navajo) word for white folks... Like I said before America is changing... My kids and grandkids have roots in three different worlds now...


On Oct 16, 2016 9:55 PM, "Jay Weekley" <par...@cyberbroadband.net <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:

    Most of us are only a relatively few generations down from someone
    that had the guts to leave their home country and come here to
    create a new life.

    That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:


        Drive and available cash flow are very much unrelated. We are
        an enigma. We have a huge prcentage of driven, breeding with
        driven, over a couple centuries, why do you think we drive
        innovation above most nations, all nations on a mean. The
        facts on the slave elements mentioned are we bred physical
        traits from the success negative element fom them. That
        statement sounds like something from a white supremacist
        garbage can. But sometimes truths sit in garbage cans.


        On Oct 16, 2016 9:55 PM, "Lewis Bergman"
        <lewis.berg...@gmail.com <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com
        <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>>> wrote:

            Hmmm. I think history would prove that attitude and drive
        is not
            genetic. Or at least the fact that the riches of a family
        seldom
            stay in the family past a couple generations would lead one to
            believe that genetics has little to do with success. That
        is an
            interesting position. Genetically diverse yes, predisposed to
            drive, success, or any other positive trait, I don't think
        so. It
            seems to me that the evidence points to nurture over nature in
            this regard.

            On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 9:48 PM That One Guy /sarcasm
            <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
        <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
        <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>> wrote:

                The absolute most common trait in success is drive. Driven
                people flocked to the us, my grandfather walked across
        Germany
                to get to a boat to come here. That's not uncommon among
                immigrants, even the current ones from South of the
        border and
                South of the borders border that have walked here.
                We took Africa and Irelands people @nd bred the best stock
                over and over. The US is in fact genetically superior
        to the
                rest of the planet because we have the rest 9f the planets
                best genes.
                Our nutjobs, even they are superior genetically. Fuck
        balls


                On Oct 16, 2016 9:35 PM, "Lewis Bergman"
                <lewis.berg...@gmail.com
        <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com
        <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>>> wrote:

                    With all our problems. All our faults. Even all our
                    inflated egos. We give more pet capita than any
        other to
                    other countries. Not the government's gifts, private
                    donations. People still come here from all over for a
                    chance to be rewarded for their hard work like no
        other
                    country will allow them to be rewarded.

                    Racist? Sure. Bigoted? Many. But I thrill to watch
        the US
                    in the Olympics as it is one of few countries you
        cannot
                    determine by race.

                    Will the rest of the world be worse off when we
        fall? By
                    that time, probably not. We have already outlived most
                    government's and are a bit long in the tooth.
        Sure, others
                    have long histories and the same names but not the
        same
                    government's.

                    I am proud to enjoy it while it lasts knowing
        nothing ever
                    stays the same and that no matter what I want or
        do I have
                    no control over it. My grandchildren, if I am so
        lucky,
                    will have a completely different America to live
        in than I
                    did from my grandparents. Most of that is likely
        to be an
                    improvement.

                    In a republic we have few to blame but ourselves.
        We all
                    deserve the government we allow to rule over us.
        Enjoy the
                    ride my friends. It ends the same for us all.


                    On Sun, Oct 16, 2016, 8:36 PM Jaime Solorza
                    <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
        <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
                    <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com
        <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>> wrote:

                        Even Pence is cautiously distancing himself
        from the
                        rigged vote paranoia..  The Republicans
        really  tried
to change voter ID laws in different states. They
                        failed..  I know folks who had to take
        literacy tests
                        in order to vote back in 60s.  We will not go
        back to
                        that..  Ever.. America has changed... Too many
                        educated folks know better than to allow
        narrow minded
                        bigots to take over our system.   Some groups are
                        planning violence as what happened with Kansas
        militia
                        against immigrants... Yeah right like most US born
                        folks would jump at chance to work in a chicken
                        processing factory.    I told my far right
        friend that
                        the sleeping giant would be awaken. Voter
                        registration is super high in many minority
                        communities... November 8 will be here sooner
        than you
                        want


                        On Oct 16, 2016 7:15 PM, "Jaime Solorza"
                        <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
        <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
                        <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com
        <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>> wrote:

                            Yep Paul..  I agree


                            On Oct 16, 2016 6:42 PM, "Paul Stewart"
                            <p...@paulstewart.org
        <mailto:p...@paulstewart.org>
                            <mailto:p...@paulstewart.org
        <mailto:p...@paulstewart.org>>> wrote:

                                Rest my case….



                                    On Oct 16, 2016, at 8:37 PM, That
            One Guy
                                    /sarcasm
            <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
                                    <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
            <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>> wrote:

                                    Our dollar it does, our military
            it did.
                                    Might and money are the only two
            things that
                                    actually control globalism. Name
            one single
                                    country that would not have a
            major impact if
                                    we pulled either from the global
            stage. .
                                    None is the answer


                                    On Oct 16, 2016 7:31 PM, "Paul
            Stewart"
                                    <p...@paulstewart.org
            <mailto:p...@paulstewart.org>
                                    <mailto:p...@paulstewart.org
            <mailto:p...@paulstewart.org>>> wrote:

                                        Not sure I agree with this ….
            the US is
                                        one very large and powerful
            country yes …
                                        but (and I’m not trying to stir
                                        controversy here despite it
            sounding like
                                        it) it’s one country out of
            many … and
                                        there are many other large and
            powerful
                                        countries out there.  I’m not
            saying that
                                        the US isn’t a major player
            and that some
                                        countries hurt more than
            others when
                                        things happen in the US but
            the “world”
                                        doesn’t centre around the US
            as much as
                                        Americans seem to think it does


                                            On Oct 16, 2016, at 7:15
                PM, That One
                                            Guy /sarcasm
                <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
                <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
                <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>> wrote:

                                            If you want to feel sorry
                for anybody,
                                            feel sorry for the
                majority of the
                                            planet who has become
                accustomed to
                                            riding the coat tails of
                the US in one
                                            major way or another. If
                and when we
                                            fall, it will be a
                disaster globally.






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