North Korea scares the shit out of me … out of control dictator that is not in the right mind and has a nuclear arsenal at his disposal…. scary shit if you ask me…
oh and has a major hate on for anything US related…. I can see a major pissing match coming (in some ways it’s already started) > On Oct 17, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > > Russia is doing some saber rattling for sure. It is concerning. Putin seems > to be trying to take advantage of the lame duck period somehow, who knows > what he is up to. N. Korea also, saying they are willing to launch a nuclear > first strike. You’d think there would be more coverage of the Russian > threats, but all people care about is the election reality show. > > Putin is pissed that Obama called him a regional power. Trump is pissed that > Obama made fun of him at the press dinner. Isn’t it nice to have world > leaders who use the powers of state to pursue their personal grudges. > > Meanwhile in Julian Assange news: > http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pamela-anderson-brings-wikileaks-julian-assange-a-vegan-lunch-and-conspiracy-theories-bloom/ar-AAj2FYZ?li=BBmkt5R > > <http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pamela-anderson-brings-wikileaks-julian-assange-a-vegan-lunch-and-conspiracy-theories-bloom/ar-AAj2FYZ?li=BBmkt5R> > > <> > From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On > Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 12:43 AM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? > > > I will look up the speech > > How do you feel about the implied "bracing for war" Russia seems to be doing? > > The right (I do live in Alabama) seems to believe they are bracing for war if > Trump does not get elected. > > I have not heard what the left thinks since all they can talk about is the > Billy Bush trump tapes or women.... > > In fact I don't believe the media is covering anything....Not even us firing > on Yemen (I did not read that article on the internet I assume we bombed A > terrorist camp or something) > > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? > Date: Mon, Oct 17, 2016 12:29 AM > > Also, it seems this explains the nuclear deal Kerry negotiated with Iran, > basically trying to do what wasn’t done with Iraq. (Idiot Trump doesn’t seem > to realize Clinton isn’t still Sec. of State, but then he lives in a fact > free zone.) After years of sanctions, you have to get some payoff as a > result of those sanctions, apparently the deal was the best our negotiating > team could get. Not trying to argue yes or no on that, just if you look back > to the Iraq vote and Kerry’s speech, you can understand why he took the > approach he did with Iran. > > He has certainly worked his butt off on the diplomacy side even at the risk > of failure. Very different approach from Clinton, I think, who seemed to be > more of a delegator. Unfortunately his efforts on the Israel/Palestine issue > were a total failure, and Putin and Lavrov totally played him for a fool on > Syria. Well, and Obama too, remember he was going to do the big “reset” with > Russia. And Hillary was the Russia hawk in the Obama administration. Makes > me totally shake my head at Trump wanting to “get along” with Russia. Why is > no one saying that sounds like weak Obama who tried to be Putin’s buddy and > was made to look like a fool. And no wonder Putin wants Trump to win, since > Hillary is hawkish on Russia. What a bizzaro world we live in, where the > Republican candidate has a bromance with Putin, and it’s the Democratic > candidate who wants to be tough on Russia? > > > From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On > Behalf Of Ken Hohhof > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 12:10 AM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? > > Then listen to the whole speech. > > From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On > Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 12:08 AM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? > > > I remember very clearly the media covering how Saddam would not allow > inspectors in and how he was very uncooperative. > > In my opinion it is saddam's fault. Had he cooperated maybe we would not have > gone to war.... > > > > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? > Date: Mon, Oct 17, 2016 12:03 AM > > I remember that very clearly. It was a war authorization vote. The > President told Congress he needed the authorization to strengthen his hand > when he went to the UN and allies and sought new sanctions to force Iraq to > submit to inspection and disarm, to show that the nation was behind him, and > that it was not a vote to go to war except as a last resort. He basically > framed it as a vote of confidence in him, that he needed that vote to show > the world he was serious and the nation spoke with one voice, it made it very > difficult for Congress not to vote yes. Of course he didn’t follow through > with his promises and quickly went to war without exhausting all other > avenues. > > I clearly remember listening to Sen. John Kerry’s speech on the floor of the > senate before the vote, laying this all out. And I remember having a sick > feeling that exactly what he said the President promised not to do and warned > him not to do, was nonetheless going to happen. Whatever you think of John > Kerry, this is a riveting speech. I found a video of it online. It’s 50 > minutes long, if you can’t spend that much time, skip to around 33:00. > > https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4398929/sen-kerry-iraq-war-authorization-speech-9oct02 > > <https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4398929/sen-kerry-iraq-war-authorization-speech-9oct02> > > > > From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On > Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 11:07 PM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? > > > I remind you....congress had to vote on that. > > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > To: "Animal Farm" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? > Date: Sun, Oct 16, 2016 10:50 PM > > Well Bush decision to invade Iraq did affect my family.. My son who proudly > served in Iraq came back injured physically and mentally. He is still under > medical care ... We should have gone after Taliban in Afghanistan and wiped > them out along with poppie fields. Hussein was a dictator I know but our > reason to invade was based on weapons of mass destruction which didn't exist. > We messed up the status quo, left and gave ISIS an opening... If you study > history of region it has shown no outside nation has ever been able to > conquer area for very long.. These folks have been at war since forever and > we got caught up in it. When you travel on plane you are affected... Large > public events are different now because threat of terrorism exists. So we > are all affected some way. The times, they are a changin > > > On Oct 16, 2016 9:21 PM, "Bruce Robertson" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Exactly right. Who is president has some effect, but not game changing. >> Most people in the country are middle of the road, and the progress of the >> country reflects that. The pendulum swings back and forth, but always >> reverts to the mean. >> >> On 10/16/16 8:17 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>> Congress makes and changes law. Supreme Court makes a few important >>> decisions. Regulators are who really run the country. >>> >>> Does it really matter who the president is? >>> What did Obama do? Encouraged the ACA. Dropped the ball in Syria. But >>> how did he affect me, my degree of wealth, my amount of spare time? >>> >>> Ditto Bush. They affect foreign policy. They have the ability to really >>> mess up other people’s lives in other countries, but do they really have >>> much effect on me? >>> >>> Granted, altering the make up of the Supreme Court changes things like can >>> I choose to marry a dude or do I have to sell wedding cakes to gays. But >>> that really does not touch me. My granddaughter having to cope with dudes >>> in the bathroom at school hits a bit closer to home, but I trust congress >>> will eventually settle on something a bit more common sense. >>> >>> I guess I am trying to convince myself that a president really doesn’t do >>> much here at home. Congress does. The court does. Bureaucracies do. >>> >>> Now, if the president could get a whole truckload of cheese delivered to >>> the Whitehouse and give it out to anyone that drops in for a visit, then we >>> are talking about a real impact... >>> >>> http://history1800s.about.com/ >>> <http://history1800s.about.com/>od/19th-Century-Presidents/fl/Andrew-Jacksons-Big-Block-of-Cheese.htm >>> >>> !DSPAM:2,580442b817511656011445!
