Don't forget he's buddies with Dennis Rodman.


On 10/17/2016 8:37 AM, Sean Heskett wrote:
He likes Katy Perry tho

On Monday, October 17, 2016, Paul Stewart < <>> wrote:

    North Korea scares the shit out of me … out of control dictator
    that is not in the right mind and has a nuclear arsenal at his
    disposal…. scary shit if you ask me…

    oh and has a major hate on for anything US related…. I can see a
    major pissing match coming (in some ways it’s already started)

    On Oct 17, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Ken Hohhof <
    <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','');>> wrote:

Russia is doing some saber rattling for sure. It is concerning. Putin seems to be trying to take advantage of the lame duck
    period somehow, who knows what he is up to.  N. Korea also,
    saying they are willing to launch a nuclear first strike.  You’d
    think there would be more coverage of the Russian threats, but
    all people care about is the election reality show.
    Putin is pissed that Obama called him a regional power.  Trump is
    pissed that Obama made fun of him at the press dinner.  Isn’t it
    nice to have world leaders who use the powers of state to pursue
    their personal grudges.
    Meanwhile in Julian Assange news:
    *From:*Af [
    <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','');>]*On Behalf
    Of*CBB - Jay Fuller
    *Sent:*Monday, October 17, 2016 12:43 AM
    *To:* <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','');>
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    I will look up the speech
    How do you feel about the implied "bracing for war" Russia seems
    to be doing?
    The right (I do live in Alabama) seems to believe they are
    bracing for war if Trump does not get elected.
    I have not heard what the left thinks since all they can talk
    about is the Billy Bush trump tapes or women....
    In fact I don't believe the media is covering anything....Not
    even us firing on Yemen (I did not read that article on the
    internet I assume we bombed A terrorist camp or something)
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    From: "Ken Hohhof" <
    To: < <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','');>>
    Subject: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?
    Date: Mon, Oct 17, 2016 12:29 AM
    Also, it seems this explains the nuclear deal Kerry negotiated
with Iran, basically trying to do what wasn’t done with Iraq. (Idiot Trump doesn’t seem to realize Clinton isn’t still Sec. of
    State, but then he lives in a fact free zone.)  After years of
    sanctions, you have to get some payoff as a result of those
    sanctions, apparently the deal was the best our negotiating team
    could get.  Not trying to argue yes or no on that, just if you
    look back to the Iraq vote and Kerry’s speech, you can understand
    why he took the approach he did with Iran.
    He has certainly worked his butt off on the diplomacy side even
    at the risk of failure. Very different approach from Clinton, I
    think, who seemed to be more of a delegator. Unfortunately his
    efforts on the Israel/Palestine issue were a total failure, and
    Putin and Lavrov totally played him for a fool on Syria.  Well,
    and Obama too, remember he was going to do the big “reset” with
    Russia.  And Hillary was the Russia hawk in the Obama
    administration.  Makes me totally shake my head at Trump wanting
    to “get along” with Russia.  Why is no one saying that sounds
    like weak Obama who tried to be Putin’s buddy and was made to
    look like a fool.  And no wonder Putin wants Trump to win, since
    Hillary is hawkish on Russia.  What a bizzaro world we live in,
    where the Republican candidate has a bromance with Putin, and
    it’s the Democratic candidate who wants to be tough on Russia?
    *From:*Af [
    <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','');>]*On Behalf
    Of*Ken Hohhof
    *Sent:*Monday, October 17, 2016 12:10 AM
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    Then listen to the whole speech.
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    Of*CBB - Jay Fuller
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    I remember very clearly the media covering how Saddam would not
    allow inspectors in and how he was very uncooperative.
    In my opinion it is saddam's fault. Had he cooperated maybe we
    would not have gone to war....
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    From: "Ken Hohhof" <
    To: < <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','');>>
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    Date: Mon, Oct 17, 2016 12:03 AM
I remember that very clearly. It was a war authorization vote. The President told Congress he needed the authorization to
    strengthen his hand when he went to the UN and allies and sought
    new sanctions to force Iraq to submit to inspection and disarm,
    to show that the nation was behind him, and that it was not a
    vote to go to war except as a last resort.  He basically framed
    it as a vote of confidence in him, that he needed that vote to
    show the world he was serious and the nation spoke with one
voice, it made it very difficult for Congress not to vote yes. Of course he didn’t follow through with his promises and quickly
    went to war without exhausting all other avenues.
    I clearly remember listening to Sen. John Kerry’s speech on the
    floor of the senate before the vote, laying this all out.  And I
    remember having a sick feeling that exactly what he said the
    President promised not to do and warned him not to do, was
    nonetheless going to happen.  Whatever you think of John Kerry,
    this is a riveting speech.  I found a video of it online.  It’s
    50 minutes long, if you can’t spend that much time, skip to
    around 33:00.
    *From:*Af [
    <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','');>]*On Behalf
    Of*CBB - Jay Fuller
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    I remind you....congress had to vote on that.
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    From: "Jaime Solorza" <
    To: "Animal Farm" <
    Subject: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?
    Date: Sun, Oct 16, 2016 10:50 PM

    Well Bush decision to invade Iraq did affect my family.. My son
    who proudly served in Iraq came back injured physically and
    mentally.  He is still under medical care ... We should have gone
    after Taliban in Afghanistan and wiped them out along with poppie
    fields. Hussein was a dictator I know but our reason to invade
    was based on weapons of mass destruction which didn't exist.   We
    messed up the status quo, left and gave ISIS an opening... If you
    study history of region it has shown no outside nation has ever
    been able to conquer area for very long..  These folks have been
    at war since forever and we got caught up in it.  When you travel
    on plane you are affected... Large public events are different
    now because threat of terrorism exists.   So we are all affected
    some way.    The times, they are a changin

    On Oct 16, 2016 9:21 PM, "Bruce Robertson" <
    <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','');>> wrote:

    Exactly right.  Who is president has some effect, but not game
    changing.  Most people in the country are middle of the road,
    and the progress of the country reflects that.  The pendulum
    swings back and forth, but always reverts to the mean.

    On 10/16/16 8:17 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
    Congress makes and changes law. Supreme Court makes a few
    important decisions. Regulators are who really run the country.
    Does it really matter who the president is?
    What did Obama do?  Encouraged the ACA.  Dropped the ball in
    Syria.  But  how did he affect me, my degree of wealth, my
    amount of spare time?
    Ditto Bush.  They affect foreign policy.  They have the ability
    to really mess up other people’s lives in other countries, but
    do they really have much effect on me?
    Granted, altering  the make up of the Supreme Court changes
    things like can I choose to marry a dude or do I have to sell
    wedding cakes to gays.  But that really does not touch me.  My
    granddaughter having to cope with dudes in the bathroom at
    school hits a bit closer to home, but I trust congress will
    eventually settle on something a bit more common sense.
    I guess I am trying to convince myself that a president really
doesn’t do much here at home. Congress does. The court does. Bureaucracies do.
    Now, if the president could get a whole truckload of cheese
    delivered to the Whitehouse and give it out to anyone that
    drops in for a visit, then we are talking about a real impact...

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