He likes Katy Perry tho


On Monday, October 17, 2016, Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org> wrote:

> North Korea scares the shit out of me … out of control dictator that is
> not in the right mind and has a nuclear arsenal at his disposal…. scary
> shit if you ask me…
>
> oh and has a major hate on for anything US related…. I can see a major
> pissing match coming (in some ways it’s already started)
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@kwisp.com');>> wrote:
>
> Russia is doing some saber rattling for sure.  It is concerning.  Putin
> seems to be trying to take advantage of the lame duck period somehow, who
> knows what he is up to.  N. Korea also, saying they are willing to launch a
> nuclear first strike.  You’d think there would be more coverage of the
> Russian threats, but all people care about is the election reality show.
>
> Putin is pissed that Obama called him a regional power.  Trump is pissed
> that Obama made fun of him at the press dinner.  Isn’t it nice to have
> world leaders who use the powers of state to pursue their personal grudges.
>
> Meanwhile in Julian Assange news:
> http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pamela-anderson-brings-
> wikileaks-julian-assange-a-vegan-lunch-and-conspiracy-
> theories-bloom/ar-AAj2FYZ?li=BBmkt5R
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of *CBB
> - Jay Fuller
> *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2016 12:43 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?
>
>
> I will look up the speech
>
> How do you feel about the implied "bracing for war" Russia seems to be
> doing?
>
> The right (I do live in Alabama) seems to believe they are bracing for war
> if Trump does not get elected.
>
> I have not heard what the left thinks since all they can talk about is the
> Billy Bush trump tapes or women....
>
> In fact I don't believe the media is covering anything....Not even us
> firing on Yemen (I did not read that article on the internet I assume we
> bombed A terrorist camp or something)
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@kwisp.com');>>
> To: <af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?
> Date: Mon, Oct 17, 2016 12:29 AM
>
> Also, it seems this explains the nuclear deal Kerry negotiated with Iran,
> basically trying to do what wasn’t done with Iraq.  (Idiot Trump doesn’t
> seem to realize Clinton isn’t still Sec. of State, but then he lives in a
> fact free zone.)  After years of sanctions, you have to get some payoff as
> a result of those sanctions, apparently the deal was the best our
> negotiating team could get.  Not trying to argue yes or no on that, just if
> you look back to the Iraq vote and Kerry’s speech, you can understand why
> he took the approach he did with Iran.
>
> He has certainly worked his butt off on the diplomacy side even at the
> risk of failure.  Very different approach from Clinton, I think, who seemed
> to be more of a delegator.  Unfortunately his efforts on the
> Israel/Palestine issue were a total failure, and Putin and Lavrov totally
> played him for a fool on Syria.  Well, and Obama too, remember he was going
> to do the big “reset” with Russia.  And Hillary was the Russia hawk in the
> Obama administration.  Makes me totally shake my head at Trump wanting to
> “get along” with Russia.  Why is no one saying that sounds like weak Obama
> who tried to be Putin’s buddy and was made to look like a fool.  And no
> wonder Putin wants Trump to win, since Hillary is hawkish on Russia.  What
> a bizzaro world we live in, where the Republican candidate has a bromance
> with Putin, and it’s the Democratic candidate who wants to be tough on
> Russia?
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of *Ken
> Hohhof
> *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2016 12:10 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?
>
> Then listen to the whole speech.
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of *CBB
> - Jay Fuller
> *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2016 12:08 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?
>
>
> I remember very clearly the media covering how Saddam would not allow
> inspectors in and how he was very uncooperative.
>
> In my opinion it is saddam's fault. Had he cooperated maybe we would not
> have gone to war....
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@kwisp.com');>>
> To: <af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?
> Date: Mon, Oct 17, 2016 12:03 AM
>
> I remember that very clearly.  It was a war authorization vote.  The
> President told Congress he needed the authorization to strengthen his hand
> when he went to the UN and allies and sought new sanctions to force Iraq to
> submit to inspection and disarm, to show that the nation was behind him,
> and that it was not a vote to go to war except as a last resort.  He
> basically framed it as a vote of confidence in him, that he needed that
> vote to show the world he was serious and the nation spoke with one voice,
> it made it very difficult for Congress not to vote yes.  Of course he
> didn’t follow through with his promises and quickly went to war without
> exhausting all other avenues.
>
> I clearly remember listening to Sen. John Kerry’s speech on the floor of
> the senate before the vote, laying this all out.  And I remember having a
> sick feeling that exactly what he said the President promised not to do and
> warned him not to do, was nonetheless going to happen.  Whatever you think
> of John Kerry, this is a riveting speech.  I found a video of it online.
> It’s 50 minutes long, if you can’t spend that much time, skip to around
> 33:00.
>
> https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4398929/sen-kerry-iraq-war-
> authorization-speech-9oct02
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of *CBB
> - Jay Fuller
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2016 11:07 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?
>
>
> I remind you....congress had to vote on that.
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','losguyswirel...@gmail.com');>>
> To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?
> Date: Sun, Oct 16, 2016 10:50 PM
>
>
> Well Bush decision to invade Iraq did affect my family.. My son who
> proudly served in Iraq came back injured physically and mentally.  He is
> still under medical care ...   We should have gone after Taliban in
> Afghanistan and wiped them out along with poppie fields.   Hussein was a
> dictator I know but our reason to invade was based on weapons of mass
> destruction which didn't exist.   We messed up the status quo, left and
> gave ISIS an opening... If you study history of region it has shown no
> outside nation has ever been able to conquer area for very long..  These
> folks have been at war since forever and we got caught up in it.  When you
> travel on plane you are affected... Large public events are different now
> because threat of terrorism exists.   So we are all affected some way.
> The times, they are a changin
>
> On Oct 16, 2016 9:21 PM, "Bruce Robertson" <br...@pooh.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','br...@pooh.com');>> wrote:
>
> Exactly right.  Who is president has some effect, but not game changing.
> Most people in the country are middle of the road, and the progress of the
> country reflects that.  The pendulum swings back and forth, but always
> reverts to the mean.
> On 10/16/16 8:17 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Congress makes and changes law.  Supreme Court makes a few important
> decisions.  Regulators are who really run the country.
>
> Does it really matter who the president is?
> What did Obama do?  Encouraged the ACA.  Dropped the ball in Syria.  But
> how did he affect me, my degree of wealth, my amount of spare time?
>
> Ditto Bush.  They affect foreign policy.  They have the ability to really
> mess up other people’s lives in other countries, but do they really have
> much effect on me?
>
> Granted, altering  the make up of the Supreme Court changes things like
> can I choose to marry a dude or do I have to sell wedding cakes to gays.
> But that really does not touch me.  My granddaughter having to cope with
> dudes in the bathroom at school hits a bit closer to home, but I trust
> congress will eventually settle on something a bit more common sense.
>
> I guess I am trying to convince myself that a president really doesn’t do
> much here at home.  Congress does.  The court does.  Bureaucracies do.
>
> Now, if the president could get a whole truckload of cheese delivered to
> the Whitehouse and give it out to anyone that drops in for a visit, then we
> are talking about a real impact...
>
> http://history1800s.about.com/od/19th-Century-Presidents/fl/
> Andrew-Jacksons-Big-Block-of-Cheese.htm
>
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