LOL … that makes me feel so much better ;)
> On Oct 17, 2016, at 11:37 AM, Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote: > > He likes Katy Perry tho > > > > On Monday, October 17, 2016, Paul Stewart <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > North Korea scares the shit out of me … out of control dictator that is not > in the right mind and has a nuclear arsenal at his disposal…. scary shit if > you ask me… > > oh and has a major hate on for anything US related…. I can see a major > pissing match coming (in some ways it’s already started) > > >> On Oct 17, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >> >> Russia is doing some saber rattling for sure. It is concerning. Putin >> seems to be trying to take advantage of the lame duck period somehow, who >> knows what he is up to. N. Korea also, saying they are willing to launch a >> nuclear first strike. You’d think there would be more coverage of the >> Russian threats, but all people care about is the election reality show. >> >> Putin is pissed that Obama called him a regional power. Trump is pissed >> that Obama made fun of him at the press dinner. Isn’t it nice to have world >> leaders who use the powers of state to pursue their personal grudges. >> >> Meanwhile in Julian Assange news: >> http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pamela-anderson-brings-wikileaks-julian-assange-a-vegan-lunch-and-conspiracy-theories-bloom/ar-AAj2FYZ?li=BBmkt5R >> >> <http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pamela-anderson-brings-wikileaks-julian-assange-a-vegan-lunch-and-conspiracy-theories-bloom/ar-AAj2FYZ?li=BBmkt5R> >> >> <> >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] On Behalf Of CBB - >> Jay Fuller >> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 12:43 AM >> To: [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? >> >> >> I will look up the speech >> >> How do you feel about the implied "bracing for war" Russia seems to be doing? >> >> The right (I do live in Alabama) seems to believe they are bracing for war >> if Trump does not get elected. >> >> I have not heard what the left thinks since all they can talk about is the >> Billy Bush trump tapes or women.... >> >> In fact I don't believe the media is covering anything....Not even us firing >> on Yemen (I did not read that article on the internet I assume we bombed A >> terrorist camp or something) >> >> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone >> >> ----- Reply message ----- >> From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >> To: <[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >> Subject: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? >> Date: Mon, Oct 17, 2016 12:29 AM >> >> Also, it seems this explains the nuclear deal Kerry negotiated with Iran, >> basically trying to do what wasn’t done with Iraq. (Idiot Trump doesn’t >> seem to realize Clinton isn’t still Sec. of State, but then he lives in a >> fact free zone.) After years of sanctions, you have to get some payoff as a >> result of those sanctions, apparently the deal was the best our negotiating >> team could get. Not trying to argue yes or no on that, just if you look >> back to the Iraq vote and Kerry’s speech, you can understand why he took the >> approach he did with Iran. >> >> He has certainly worked his butt off on the diplomacy side even at the risk >> of failure. Very different approach from Clinton, I think, who seemed to be >> more of a delegator. Unfortunately his efforts on the Israel/Palestine >> issue were a total failure, and Putin and Lavrov totally played him for a >> fool on Syria. Well, and Obama too, remember he was going to do the big >> “reset” with Russia. And Hillary was the Russia hawk in the Obama >> administration. Makes me totally shake my head at Trump wanting to “get >> along” with Russia. Why is no one saying that sounds like weak Obama who >> tried to be Putin’s buddy and was made to look like a fool. And no wonder >> Putin wants Trump to win, since Hillary is hawkish on Russia. What a >> bizzaro world we live in, where the Republican candidate has a bromance with >> Putin, and it’s the Democratic candidate who wants to be tough on Russia? >> >> >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] On Behalf Of Ken >> Hohhof >> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 12:10 AM >> To: [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? >> >> Then listen to the whole speech. >> >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] On Behalf Of CBB - >> Jay Fuller >> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 12:08 AM >> To: [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? >> >> >> I remember very clearly the media covering how Saddam would not allow >> inspectors in and how he was very uncooperative. >> >> In my opinion it is saddam's fault. Had he cooperated maybe we would not >> have gone to war.... >> >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone >> >> ----- Reply message ----- >> From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >> To: <[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >> Subject: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? >> Date: Mon, Oct 17, 2016 12:03 AM >> >> I remember that very clearly. It was a war authorization vote. The >> President told Congress he needed the authorization to strengthen his hand >> when he went to the UN and allies and sought new sanctions to force Iraq to >> submit to inspection and disarm, to show that the nation was behind him, and >> that it was not a vote to go to war except as a last resort. He basically >> framed it as a vote of confidence in him, that he needed that vote to show >> the world he was serious and the nation spoke with one voice, it made it >> very difficult for Congress not to vote yes. Of course he didn’t follow >> through with his promises and quickly went to war without exhausting all >> other avenues. >> >> I clearly remember listening to Sen. John Kerry’s speech on the floor of the >> senate before the vote, laying this all out. And I remember having a sick >> feeling that exactly what he said the President promised not to do and >> warned him not to do, was nonetheless going to happen. Whatever you think >> of John Kerry, this is a riveting speech. I found a video of it online. >> It’s 50 minutes long, if you can’t spend that much time, skip to around >> 33:00. >> >> https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4398929/sen-kerry-iraq-war-authorization-speech-9oct02 >> >> <https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4398929/sen-kerry-iraq-war-authorization-speech-9oct02> >> >> >> >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] On Behalf Of CBB - >> Jay Fuller >> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 11:07 PM >> To: [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? >> >> >> I remind you....congress had to vote on that. >> >> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone >> >> ----- Reply message ----- >> From: "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >> To: "Animal Farm" <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >> Subject: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? >> Date: Sun, Oct 16, 2016 10:50 PM >> >> Well Bush decision to invade Iraq did affect my family.. My son who proudly >> served in Iraq came back injured physically and mentally. He is still under >> medical care ... We should have gone after Taliban in Afghanistan and >> wiped them out along with poppie fields. Hussein was a dictator I know but >> our reason to invade was based on weapons of mass destruction which didn't >> exist. We messed up the status quo, left and gave ISIS an opening... If >> you study history of region it has shown no outside nation has ever been >> able to conquer area for very long.. These folks have been at war since >> forever and we got caught up in it. When you travel on plane you are >> affected... Large public events are different now because threat of >> terrorism exists. So we are all affected some way. The times, they are >> a changin >> >> >> On Oct 16, 2016 9:21 PM, "Bruce Robertson" <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>> Exactly right. Who is president has some effect, but not game changing. >>> Most people in the country are middle of the road, and the progress of the >>> country reflects that. The pendulum swings back and forth, but always >>> reverts to the mean. >>> >>> On 10/16/16 8:17 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>> Congress makes and changes law. Supreme Court makes a few important >>>> decisions. Regulators are who really run the country. >>>> >>>> Does it really matter who the president is? >>>> What did Obama do? Encouraged the ACA. Dropped the ball in Syria. But >>>> how did he affect me, my degree of wealth, my amount of spare time? >>>> >>>> Ditto Bush. They affect foreign policy. They have the ability to really >>>> mess up other people’s lives in other countries, but do they really have >>>> much effect on me? >>>> >>>> Granted, altering the make up of the Supreme Court changes things like >>>> can I choose to marry a dude or do I have to sell wedding cakes to gays. >>>> But that really does not touch me. My granddaughter having to cope with >>>> dudes in the bathroom at school hits a bit closer to home, but I trust >>>> congress will eventually settle on something a bit more common sense. >>>> >>>> I guess I am trying to convince myself that a president really doesn’t do >>>> much here at home. Congress does. The court does. Bureaucracies do. >>>> >>>> Now, if the president could get a whole truckload of cheese delivered to >>>> the Whitehouse and give it out to anyone that drops in for a visit, then >>>> we are talking about a real impact... >>>> >>>> http://history1800s.about.com/ >>>> <http://history1800s.about.com/>od/19th-Century-Presidents/fl/Andrew-Jacksons-Big-Block-of-Cheese.htm >>>> >>>> !DSPAM:2,580442b817511656011445! >
