Tushar,


There are some great notes in the manual on frame utilization for 450m.  It can 
go up to 190%



Daniel White

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ConVergence Technologies

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From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tushar Patel
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 11:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 vs 450i



On 140 Ap, at peak time what is total throughput you are seeing from 450m?



We replaced 450 to 450m, 80 customers, it used to see 45 to 50 megs, with 450m 
I saw it jumped close to 90 meg.



I think we keep watching the frame utilization we thought it was maxed out but 
i think it is mis leading, at 60 meg it shows the 100% and at 85 meg it shows 
the same.  So how can we tell when we are really saturating the connection?

Tushar




On Jan 19, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Trey Scarborough <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

I would make the jump to the 450m if you have 12 APs on the one tower and 
combine two or more in to one. I have seen 140+ customers on one 450m.



On 1/19/2017 10:54 AM, Eric Muehleisen wrote:

We've done that. This particular tower has 12 AP's on it. It's in a noisy 
environment as well. We sent out our techs to improve many of the 1x & 2x subs 
and only gained about 5mb/s. It was a lot of effort with very little payoff. 
Our techs have a better understanding of what poor SM's can do to the AP. So 
that's a plus.



I was hoping someone had done a direct replacement of 450 to 450i and could 
share their results. Perhaps it's time to look at the 450m a little closer.



On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Sean Heskett <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

It sounds like you have a lot of weak signal clients.  You should see the AP 
max out at 50-60mbps but only if the majority of clients are 6x or 8x.



Can you add stingers or dishes to the SMs??



The 450i will give you more PPS but that's probably not the issue.



I would just add another 450AP aimed in the same direction and split the load.



-Sean





On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 9:33 AM Eric Muehleisen <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

We currently have a pile of 450 AP's that top out around 100% downlink 
utilization which gives us between 30-35mb/s downlink capacity.



We are considering the 450m but doesn't make sense, cost wise, in many of our 
locations. What kind of improvement you think you would see by upgrading to 
450i AP?



Our AP's are configured for 20mhz and 75% downlink.









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