Only 1x or 2x? Downlink? Sounds like you need a lot of help at the client side. 
Well, assuming you're not using omnis. 

How far does PMP450 go for modulation? I wouldn't install anyone less than one 
step below full modulation. 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Eric Muehleisen" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 10:54:53 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 vs 450i 


We've done that. This particular tower has 12 AP's on it. It's in a noisy 
environment as well. We sent out our techs to improve many of the 1x & 2x subs 
and only gained about 5mb/s. It was a lot of effort with very little payoff. 
Our techs have a better understanding of what poor SM's can do to the AP. So 
that's a plus. 


I was hoping someone had done a direct replacement of 450 to 450i and could 
share their results. Perhaps it's time to look at the 450m a little closer. 


On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Sean Heskett < [email protected] > wrote: 



It sounds like you have a lot of weak signal clients. You should see the AP max 
out at 50-60mbps but only if the majority of clients are 6x or 8x. 


Can you add stingers or dishes to the SMs?? 


The 450i will give you more PPS but that's probably not the issue. 


I would just add another 450AP aimed in the same direction and split the load. 


-Sean 







On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 9:33 AM Eric Muehleisen < [email protected] > wrote: 

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We currently have a pile of 450 AP's that top out around 100% downlink 
utilization which gives us between 30-35mb/s downlink capacity. 


We are considering the 450m but doesn't make sense, cost wise, in many of our 
locations. What kind of improvement you think you would see by upgrading to 
450i AP? 


Our AP's are configured for 20mhz and 75% downlink. 




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