Not sure what there is to fix.  One of my daughters is a Utah school teacher.  
Pay is low, but the quality of education is OK.  My kids all got into the 
college of their choice.  Yeah classes are large but it is a good deal for the 
taxpayer.  

From: Jeremy 
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 10:34 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - schoolbus fire in Utah ...

I am all for seat belts on school buses here in Utah.  However, perhaps we 
should focus on the fact that we have the lowest education spending per student 
in the entire nation first.  I think before we spend a bunch of money getting 
our children to their overcrowded, underfunded schools, we should perhaps first 
fix the schools themselves.

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> 
wrote:

  recently I shared pulling video of crash involving one of our buses with a 
car who got T-boned by crossing into bus path.   We have 8 cameras onboard.   
The two inside driver and shotgun areas showed officers movement caused by 
impact and braking.... Speed was about 47MPH when hit occurred according to GPS 
log.... The driver head lurched forward hard but he never lost control and 
stayed in lane.... The shotgun driver is seated sideways and his body moved 
violently with seatbelt keeping him from going out front window... Driver was 
paralyzed for several days, shotgun driver broke ribs.... The car hit was 
driven by drunk lady.... She is still in ICU with head injury, 7 year old 
passed away two days after wreck, (no seat belt)  and 3 year old survived.. 
Seat belt.. 

  On Jan 28, 2017 9:20 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

    The main reason for a seat belt is to prevent you from being ejected.  
Being ejected is what kills people.  In my memory school bus seats were not 
padded very well at all.  

    I am not suggesting a driver has to ensure the kids are buckled.  They can 
take that upon themselves or there could simply be a small array of indicators 
showing who was clicked and who was not.  

    From: Andrew Haninger 
    Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:15 AM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - schoolbus fire in Utah ...

    Simon on the Today I Found Out channel on YouTube goes into some of the 
logic behind no seatbelts on school buses on an episode about why the buses are 
yellow. 

    First, the seats are very well padded. Then it would take a lot of extra 
time for the driver to ensure that the kids were buckled in properly when he 
should be focusing more on driving safely. Lastly he says that putting belts in 
the buses would be very expensive and likely wouldn't improve injury and death 
rates in bus crashes.

    Even most city buses don't have belts except for the driver.



    On Jan 28, 2017 10:57, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

      There is a bill in the Utah legislature to add seat belts.  I have never 
understood why our most venerable transportation passengers are not belted in.  

      From: Ken Hohhof 
      Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:43 AM
      To: [email protected] 
      Subject: [AFMUG] OT - schoolbus fire in Utah ...

      … no students on bus, nobody injured … and the answer is seat belts?  
Maybe DJT needs to send in the Feds, if Utah can’t fix its horrible carnage.  
</sarcasm>

      
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/video/school-bus-catches-fire-in-utah/vi-AAmkRXd




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