Money is not the issue. Similar to the healthcare problem. We pay more and often get less than most other countries.
Schools are not primarily about teaching any subject but social skills now. I shouldn't be that general. Poorer schools fit that description. Richer schools to a pretty good job without the problems that kids on the low economic scale bring to school. Combing parents that don't care with kids that learn not to care with teachers that get fatigued into not caring yields what we have now. Bummer. On Sun, Jan 29, 2017, 9:00 AM Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote: > Primarily we need to increase pay to the teachers, and give them a > budget. The teachers that I know have zero budget, and have to purchase > all materials for the year's curriculum and projects out of their own > pockets. They ask for donations at my child's school for things like > tissues and toilet paper. Many of the schools in Utah have no Air > Conditioning, making for a rough summer learning environment. The list > goes on and on. I would happily pay higher taxes to improve our schools. > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < > [email protected]> wrote: > > more kids will die if there are than arent, ask ntsb, no joke, in EMS, > when i entered as a shill, i soon realized that puffery is not science > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> > wrote: > > It confuses me why people always assume it's a bad thing when they see > something like "lowest spending in the nation". Seems to me how good of a > job they're doing is far more important than how much money they spend... > not everything can be improved by throwing more money at it. > > On Jan 28, 2017 11:41 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Not sure what there is to fix. One of my daughters is a Utah school > teacher. Pay is low, but the quality of education is OK. My kids all got > into the college of their choice. Yeah classes are large but it is a good > deal for the taxpayer. > > *From:* Jeremy > *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2017 10:34 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - schoolbus fire in Utah ... > > I am all for seat belts on school buses here in Utah. However, perhaps we > should focus on the fact that we have the lowest education spending per > student in the entire nation first. I think before we spend a bunch of > money getting our children to their overcrowded, underfunded schools, we > should perhaps first fix the schools themselves. > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> > wrote: > > recently I shared pulling video of crash involving one of our buses with a > car who got T-boned by crossing into bus path. We have 8 cameras > onboard. The two inside driver and shotgun areas showed officers movement > caused by impact and braking.... Speed was about 47MPH when hit occurred > according to GPS log.... The driver head lurched forward hard but he never > lost control and stayed in lane.... The shotgun driver is seated sideways > and his body moved violently with seatbelt keeping him from going out front > window... Driver was paralyzed for several days, shotgun driver broke > ribs.... The car hit was driven by drunk lady.... She is still in ICU with > head injury, 7 year old passed away two days after wreck, (no seat belt) > and 3 year old survived.. Seat belt.. > > On Jan 28, 2017 9:20 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: > > The main reason for a seat belt is to prevent you from being ejected. > Being ejected is what kills people. In my memory school bus seats were not > padded very well at all. > > I am not suggesting a driver has to ensure the kids are buckled. They can > take that upon themselves or there could simply be a small array of > indicators showing who was clicked and who was not. > > *From:* Andrew Haninger > *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:15 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - schoolbus fire in Utah ... > > Simon on the Today I Found Out channel on YouTube goes into some of the > logic behind no seatbelts on school buses on an episode about why the buses > are yellow. > > First, the seats are very well padded. Then it would take a lot of extra > time for the driver to ensure that the kids were buckled in properly when > he should be focusing more on driving safely. Lastly he says that putting > belts in the buses would be very expensive and likely wouldn't improve > injury and death rates in bus crashes. > > Even most city buses don't have belts except for the driver. > > > On Jan 28, 2017 10:57, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: > > There is a bill in the Utah legislature to add seat belts. I have never > understood why our most venerable transportation passengers are not belted > in. > > *From:* Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:43 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT - schoolbus fire in Utah ... > > > … no students on bus, nobody injured … and the answer is seat belts? > Maybe DJT needs to send in the Feds, if Utah can’t fix its horrible > carnage. </sarcasm> > > > http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/video/school-bus-catches-fire-in-utah/vi-AAmkRXd > > > > > > > > > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > > >
