This is ten years ago, but the budgets are still inadequate and most of these same schools still don't have AC. http://archive.sltrib.com/story.php?ref=/education/ci_6767099
On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > My Utah grade school teacher daughter is here at my house this afternoon. > > She says the schools have A/C, each classroom has a ActiveInspire > whiteboard and software, they have the supplies they need. Just would like > pay to be higher but other states have lower teacher pay. > > *From:* Jeremy > *Sent:* Sunday, January 29, 2017 8:00 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - schoolbus fire in Utah ... > > Primarily we need to increase pay to the teachers, and give them a > budget. The teachers that I know have zero budget, and have to purchase > all materials for the year's curriculum and projects out of their own > pockets. They ask for donations at my child's school for things like > tissues and toilet paper. Many of the schools in Utah have no Air > Conditioning, making for a rough summer learning environment. The list > goes on and on. I would happily pay higher taxes to improve our schools. > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> more kids will die if there are than arent, ask ntsb, no joke, in EMS, >> when i entered as a shill, i soon realized that puffery is not science >> >> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> It confuses me why people always assume it's a bad thing when they see >>> something like "lowest spending in the nation". Seems to me how good of a >>> job they're doing is far more important than how much money they spend... >>> not everything can be improved by throwing more money at it. >>> >>> On Jan 28, 2017 11:41 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Not sure what there is to fix. One of my daughters is a Utah school >>>> teacher. Pay is low, but the quality of education is OK. My kids all got >>>> into the college of their choice. Yeah classes are large but it is a good >>>> deal for the taxpayer. >>>> >>>> *From:* Jeremy >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2017 10:34 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - schoolbus fire in Utah ... >>>> >>>> I am all for seat belts on school buses here in Utah. However, perhaps >>>> we should focus on the fact that we have the lowest education spending per >>>> student in the entire nation first. I think before we spend a bunch of >>>> money getting our children to their overcrowded, underfunded schools, we >>>> should perhaps first fix the schools themselves. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Jaime Solorza < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> recently I shared pulling video of crash involving one of our buses >>>>> with a car who got T-boned by crossing into bus path. We have 8 cameras >>>>> onboard. The two inside driver and shotgun areas showed officers >>>>> movement >>>>> caused by impact and braking.... Speed was about 47MPH when hit occurred >>>>> according to GPS log.... The driver head lurched forward hard but he never >>>>> lost control and stayed in lane.... The shotgun driver is seated sideways >>>>> and his body moved violently with seatbelt keeping him from going out >>>>> front >>>>> window... Driver was paralyzed for several days, shotgun driver broke >>>>> ribs.... The car hit was driven by drunk lady.... She is still in ICU with >>>>> head injury, 7 year old passed away two days after wreck, (no seat belt) >>>>> and 3 year old survived.. Seat belt.. >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 28, 2017 9:20 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The main reason for a seat belt is to prevent you from being >>>>>> ejected. Being ejected is what kills people. In my memory school bus >>>>>> seats were not padded very well at all. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am not suggesting a driver has to ensure the kids are buckled. >>>>>> They can take that upon themselves or there could simply be a small array >>>>>> of indicators showing who was clicked and who was not. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Andrew Haninger >>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:15 AM >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - schoolbus fire in Utah ... >>>>>> >>>>>> Simon on the Today I Found Out channel on YouTube goes into some of >>>>>> the logic behind no seatbelts on school buses on an episode about why the >>>>>> buses are yellow. >>>>>> >>>>>> First, the seats are very well padded. Then it would take a lot of >>>>>> extra time for the driver to ensure that the kids were buckled in >>>>>> properly >>>>>> when he should be focusing more on driving safely. Lastly he says that >>>>>> putting belts in the buses would be very expensive and likely wouldn't >>>>>> improve injury and death rates in bus crashes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Even most city buses don't have belts except for the driver. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 28, 2017 10:57, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> There is a bill in the Utah legislature to add seat belts. I have >>>>>> never understood why our most venerable transportation passengers are not >>>>>> belted in. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof >>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:43 AM >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT - schoolbus fire in Utah ... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> … no students on bus, nobody injured … and the answer is seat belts? >>>>>> Maybe DJT needs to send in the Feds, if Utah can’t fix its horrible >>>>>> carnage. </sarcasm> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/video/school-bus-catches-fire- >>>>>> in-utah/vi-AAmkRXd >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> > >
