It confuses me why people always assume it's a bad thing when they see something like "lowest spending in the nation". Seems to me how good of a job they're doing is far more important than how much money they spend... not everything can be improved by throwing more money at it.
On Jan 28, 2017 11:41 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Not sure what there is to fix. One of my daughters is a Utah school > teacher. Pay is low, but the quality of education is OK. My kids all got > into the college of their choice. Yeah classes are large but it is a good > deal for the taxpayer. > > *From:* Jeremy > *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2017 10:34 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - schoolbus fire in Utah ... > > I am all for seat belts on school buses here in Utah. However, perhaps we > should focus on the fact that we have the lowest education spending per > student in the entire nation first. I think before we spend a bunch of > money getting our children to their overcrowded, underfunded schools, we > should perhaps first fix the schools themselves. > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> recently I shared pulling video of crash involving one of our buses with >> a car who got T-boned by crossing into bus path. We have 8 cameras >> onboard. The two inside driver and shotgun areas showed officers movement >> caused by impact and braking.... Speed was about 47MPH when hit occurred >> according to GPS log.... The driver head lurched forward hard but he never >> lost control and stayed in lane.... The shotgun driver is seated sideways >> and his body moved violently with seatbelt keeping him from going out front >> window... Driver was paralyzed for several days, shotgun driver broke >> ribs.... The car hit was driven by drunk lady.... She is still in ICU with >> head injury, 7 year old passed away two days after wreck, (no seat belt) >> and 3 year old survived.. Seat belt.. >> >> On Jan 28, 2017 9:20 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> The main reason for a seat belt is to prevent you from being ejected. >>> Being ejected is what kills people. In my memory school bus seats were not >>> padded very well at all. >>> >>> I am not suggesting a driver has to ensure the kids are buckled. They >>> can take that upon themselves or there could simply be a small array of >>> indicators showing who was clicked and who was not. >>> >>> *From:* Andrew Haninger >>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:15 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - schoolbus fire in Utah ... >>> >>> Simon on the Today I Found Out channel on YouTube goes into some of the >>> logic behind no seatbelts on school buses on an episode about why the buses >>> are yellow. >>> >>> First, the seats are very well padded. Then it would take a lot of extra >>> time for the driver to ensure that the kids were buckled in properly when >>> he should be focusing more on driving safely. Lastly he says that putting >>> belts in the buses would be very expensive and likely wouldn't improve >>> injury and death rates in bus crashes. >>> >>> Even most city buses don't have belts except for the driver. >>> >>> >>> On Jan 28, 2017 10:57, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> There is a bill in the Utah legislature to add seat belts. I have never >>> understood why our most venerable transportation passengers are not belted >>> in. >>> >>> *From:* Ken Hohhof >>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:43 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT - schoolbus fire in Utah ... >>> >>> >>> … no students on bus, nobody injured … and the answer is seat belts? >>> Maybe DJT needs to send in the Feds, if Utah can’t fix its horrible >>> carnage. </sarcasm> >>> >>> http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/video/school-bus-catches-fire- >>> in-utah/vi-AAmkRXd >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >
