My Utah grade school teacher daughter is here at my house this afternoon.

She says the schools have A/C, each classroom has a ActiveInspire whiteboard 
and software, they have the supplies they need.  Just would like pay to be 
higher but other states have lower teacher pay.  

From: Jeremy 
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 8:00 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - schoolbus fire in Utah ...

Primarily we need to increase pay to the teachers, and give them a budget.  The 
teachers that I know have zero budget, and have to purchase all materials for 
the year's curriculum and projects out of their own pockets.  They ask for 
donations at my child's school for things like tissues and toilet paper.  Many 
of the schools in Utah have no Air Conditioning, making for a rough summer 
learning environment.  The list goes on and on.  I would happily pay higher 
taxes to improve our schools.

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
<[email protected]> wrote:

  more kids will die if there are than arent, ask ntsb, no joke, in EMS, when i 
entered as a shill, i soon realized that puffery is not science

  On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:

    It confuses me why people always assume it's a bad thing when they see 
something like "lowest spending in the nation". Seems to me how good of a job 
they're doing is far more important than how much money they spend... not 
everything can be improved by throwing more money at it. 

    On Jan 28, 2017 11:41 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

      Not sure what there is to fix.  One of my daughters is a Utah school 
teacher.  Pay is low, but the quality of education is OK.  My kids all got into 
the college of their choice.  Yeah classes are large but it is a good deal for 
the taxpayer.  

      From: Jeremy 
      Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 10:34 AM
      To: [email protected] 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - schoolbus fire in Utah ...

      I am all for seat belts on school buses here in Utah.  However, perhaps 
we should focus on the fact that we have the lowest education spending per 
student in the entire nation first.  I think before we spend a bunch of money 
getting our children to their overcrowded, underfunded schools, we should 
perhaps first fix the schools themselves.

      On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Jaime Solorza 
<[email protected]> wrote:

        recently I shared pulling video of crash involving one of our buses 
with a car who got T-boned by crossing into bus path.   We have 8 cameras 
onboard.   The two inside driver and shotgun areas showed officers movement 
caused by impact and braking.... Speed was about 47MPH when hit occurred 
according to GPS log.... The driver head lurched forward hard but he never lost 
control and stayed in lane.... The shotgun driver is seated sideways and his 
body moved violently with seatbelt keeping him from going out front window... 
Driver was paralyzed for several days, shotgun driver broke ribs.... The car 
hit was driven by drunk lady.... She is still in ICU with head injury, 7 year 
old passed away two days after wreck, (no seat belt)  and 3 year old survived.. 
Seat belt.. 

        On Jan 28, 2017 9:20 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

          The main reason for a seat belt is to prevent you from being ejected. 
 Being ejected is what kills people.  In my memory school bus seats were not 
padded very well at all.  

          I am not suggesting a driver has to ensure the kids are buckled.  
They can take that upon themselves or there could simply be a small array of 
indicators showing who was clicked and who was not.  

          From: Andrew Haninger 
          Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:15 AM
          To: [email protected] 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - schoolbus fire in Utah ...

          Simon on the Today I Found Out channel on YouTube goes into some of 
the logic behind no seatbelts on school buses on an episode about why the buses 
are yellow. 

          First, the seats are very well padded. Then it would take a lot of 
extra time for the driver to ensure that the kids were buckled in properly when 
he should be focusing more on driving safely. Lastly he says that putting belts 
in the buses would be very expensive and likely wouldn't improve injury and 
death rates in bus crashes.

          Even most city buses don't have belts except for the driver.



          On Jan 28, 2017 10:57, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

            There is a bill in the Utah legislature to add seat belts.  I have 
never understood why our most venerable transportation passengers are not 
belted in.  

            From: Ken Hohhof 
            Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:43 AM
            To: [email protected] 
            Subject: [AFMUG] OT - schoolbus fire in Utah ...

            … no students on bus, nobody injured … and the answer is seat 
belts?  Maybe DJT needs to send in the Feds, if Utah can’t fix its horrible 
carnage.  </sarcasm>

            
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/video/school-bus-catches-fire-in-utah/vi-AAmkRXd









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