more kids will die if there are than arent, ask ntsb, no joke, in EMS, when i entered as a shill, i soon realized that puffery is not science
On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: > It confuses me why people always assume it's a bad thing when they see > something like "lowest spending in the nation". Seems to me how good of a > job they're doing is far more important than how much money they spend... > not everything can be improved by throwing more money at it. > > On Jan 28, 2017 11:41 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Not sure what there is to fix. One of my daughters is a Utah school >> teacher. Pay is low, but the quality of education is OK. My kids all got >> into the college of their choice. Yeah classes are large but it is a good >> deal for the taxpayer. >> >> *From:* Jeremy >> *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2017 10:34 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - schoolbus fire in Utah ... >> >> I am all for seat belts on school buses here in Utah. However, perhaps >> we should focus on the fact that we have the lowest education spending per >> student in the entire nation first. I think before we spend a bunch of >> money getting our children to their overcrowded, underfunded schools, we >> should perhaps first fix the schools themselves. >> >> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> recently I shared pulling video of crash involving one of our buses with >>> a car who got T-boned by crossing into bus path. We have 8 cameras >>> onboard. The two inside driver and shotgun areas showed officers movement >>> caused by impact and braking.... Speed was about 47MPH when hit occurred >>> according to GPS log.... The driver head lurched forward hard but he never >>> lost control and stayed in lane.... The shotgun driver is seated sideways >>> and his body moved violently with seatbelt keeping him from going out front >>> window... Driver was paralyzed for several days, shotgun driver broke >>> ribs.... The car hit was driven by drunk lady.... She is still in ICU with >>> head injury, 7 year old passed away two days after wreck, (no seat belt) >>> and 3 year old survived.. Seat belt.. >>> >>> On Jan 28, 2017 9:20 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> The main reason for a seat belt is to prevent you from being ejected. >>>> Being ejected is what kills people. In my memory school bus seats were not >>>> padded very well at all. >>>> >>>> I am not suggesting a driver has to ensure the kids are buckled. They >>>> can take that upon themselves or there could simply be a small array of >>>> indicators showing who was clicked and who was not. >>>> >>>> *From:* Andrew Haninger >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:15 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - schoolbus fire in Utah ... >>>> >>>> Simon on the Today I Found Out channel on YouTube goes into some of the >>>> logic behind no seatbelts on school buses on an episode about why the buses >>>> are yellow. >>>> >>>> First, the seats are very well padded. Then it would take a lot of >>>> extra time for the driver to ensure that the kids were buckled in properly >>>> when he should be focusing more on driving safely. Lastly he says that >>>> putting belts in the buses would be very expensive and likely wouldn't >>>> improve injury and death rates in bus crashes. >>>> >>>> Even most city buses don't have belts except for the driver. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 28, 2017 10:57, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> There is a bill in the Utah legislature to add seat belts. I have >>>> never understood why our most venerable transportation passengers are not >>>> belted in. >>>> >>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:43 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT - schoolbus fire in Utah ... >>>> >>>> >>>> … no students on bus, nobody injured … and the answer is seat belts? >>>> Maybe DJT needs to send in the Feds, if Utah can’t fix its horrible >>>> carnage. </sarcasm> >>>> >>>> http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/video/school-bus-catches-fire- >>>> in-utah/vi-AAmkRXd >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
