I thought you only had to pay if you bought the model 3.

On Monday, March 20, 2017, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

> Not any more for new Tesla owners….
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> Rory
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of *Chuck
> McCown
> *Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2017 2:38 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
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> Yep, but there is a free one just down the road from me.
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> *From:* Rory Conaway
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> *Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2017 3:37 PM
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> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
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> 40A is what’s necessary for the 8 hour chargers.  Want to charge your
> 100kWh Tesla in a few hours, spend about $10K with the electric company and
> get them to pull another 100A to your house at 480v I think.
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> Rory
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of *Chuck
> McCown
> *Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2017 2:32 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
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> 220/221
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> 30 amp at least.  I think I would wire a 40 or 50 amp circuit for it.
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> *From:* Lewis Bergman
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> *Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2017 3:29 PM
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> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
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> For you guys with your fancy electric cars. I don't have one, Not sure
> I'll ever get one. But I am building a new house and want to make sure I
> allow for all the wild things that may take place one day. Is it just a 220
> or something?
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> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:36 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');>> wrote:
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> E=MC^2 I think probably has a tad more energy than just the M...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 2:33 PM
> To: af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
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> It was a joke about the "Solar System"   and as  such is a birthright...
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> On 3/20/17 9:06 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
> > How much do you get paid for that.  In Phoenix, it's pretty low and they
> > just added a $50 per month charge to connect to the grid.
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> > Rory
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] On Behalf Of
> Robert
> > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 10:46 AM
> > To: af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
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> > My solar system stores energy in the form of gravity potential...
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> > On 3/20/17 5:59 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> >> My solar system stores excess energy as credit on the bill.  So I can
> >> use it anytime of day.
> >>
> >> *From:* Rory Conaway
> >> *Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2017 3:21 AM
> >> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
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> >> Our rate is 5.9 cents per kWh under a special program for electric car
> >> owners.
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> >> Most of my wife’s driving is 70mph or less and more city driving than
> >> what you probably do.  We probably charge 50 miles per day average and
> >> the car gets about 3.5-4m per kWh.
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> >> Our worst rate is about 10.1 cents per kWh on peak during the week.
> >> Solar doesn’t help us in charging since the care is gone at 7:30am and
> >> doesn’t get home until after 6:30.
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> >> Rory
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> >> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of
> *Chuck McCown
> >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 19, 2017 9:50 PM
> >> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
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> >> I am getting about 1 mile per percent.  I never trust that display, I
> >> always use battery percentage.  But I drive 80 mph everywhere, freeway.
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> >> I am solar powered at my house and other people pay for the power other
> >> places I charge.   So there is no cost of energy for me.
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> >> But if I was paying, it would be about 12 cents per kWh  (it can go as
> >> low as 8 cents depending on how you do  it).  So $3.60/charge or 3
> >> cents per mile.  (2.4 cents per mile at the lower tariff)
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> >> Hyundai was getting 34 mpg.  So 7.4 cents per mile.
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> >>
> >> *From:*Rory Conaway
> >>
> >> *Sent:*Sunday, March 19, 2017 9:57 PM
> >>
> >> *To:*af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
> >>
> >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> So after 2 days with the Leaf and the 30Kw battery, our estimate is
> >> that it’s actually underrated or they have found other ways to save
> >> power.  I definitely notice more aggressive regen control on eco mode
> >> but we are seeing 120-125 mile on the display even after using 5-8% of
> >> the
> >> battery.   Considering you can drive one for about $4K a year, almost no
> >> maintenance, and about ¼ of the cost of gas, it’s got to be one of the
> >> best values out there.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Rory
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> >> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of
> *Chuck McCown
> >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2017 9:08 AM
> >> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
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> >> I find it interesting they can upgrade a battery with software...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:*can...@believewireless.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','can...@believewireless.net');>
> >>
> >> *Sent:*Saturday, March 18, 2017 10:06 AM
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> >> *To:*af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
> >>
> >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
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> >> I highly doubt people were just buying the 75 as they say. Think this
> >> will hurt sales? They already did this to the Model X.
> >>
> >> Or are they hoping the Model 3 will fill the gap?
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> >> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Interesting note from Tesla this morning:
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> >> Customers who still want the opportunity to own a 60 kWh Model S will
> >> have until April 16, 2017 to place their order. Any 60 kWh Model S
> >> will have the ability to upgrade their battery to 75 kWh via an over
> >> the air update.
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