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30 amp at least.  I think I would wire a 40 or 50 amp circuit for it.  

From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 3:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla

For you guys with your fancy electric cars. I don't have one, Not sure I'll 
ever get one. But I am building a new house and want to make sure I allow for 
all the wild things that may take place one day. Is it just a 220 or something?

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:36 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  E=MC^2 I think probably has a tad more energy than just the M...

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Robert
  Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 2:33 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla

  It was a joke about the "Solar System"   and as  such is a birthright...

  On 3/20/17 9:06 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
  > How much do you get paid for that.  In Phoenix, it's pretty low and they
  > just added a $50 per month charge to connect to the grid.
  >
  > Rory
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert
  > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 10:46 AM
  > To: af@afmug.com
  > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
  >
  > My solar system stores energy in the form of gravity potential...
  >
  > On 3/20/17 5:59 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
  >> My solar system stores excess energy as credit on the bill.  So I can
  >> use it anytime of day.
  >>
  >> *From:* Rory Conaway
  >> *Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2017 3:21 AM
  >> *To:* af@afmug.com
  >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
  >>
  >>
  >> Our rate is 5.9 cents per kWh under a special program for electric car
  >> owners.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> Most of my wife’s driving is 70mph or less and more city driving than
  >> what you probably do.  We probably charge 50 miles per day average and
  >> the car gets about 3.5-4m per kWh.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> Our worst rate is about 10.1 cents per kWh on peak during the week.
  >> Solar doesn’t help us in charging since the care is gone at 7:30am and
  >> doesn’t get home until after 6:30.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> Rory
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
  >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 19, 2017 9:50 PM
  >> *To:* af@afmug.com
  >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> I am getting about 1 mile per percent.  I never trust that display, I
  >> always use battery percentage.  But I drive 80 mph everywhere, freeway.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> I am solar powered at my house and other people pay for the power other
  >> places I charge.   So there is no cost of energy for me.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> But if I was paying, it would be about 12 cents per kWh  (it can go as
  >> low as 8 cents depending on how you do  it).  So $3.60/charge or 3
  >> cents per mile.  (2.4 cents per mile at the lower tariff)
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> Hyundai was getting 34 mpg.  So 7.4 cents per mile.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> *From:*Rory Conaway
  >>
  >> *Sent:*Sunday, March 19, 2017 9:57 PM
  >>
  >> *To:*af@afmug.com
  >>
  >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> So after 2 days with the Leaf and the 30Kw battery, our estimate is
  >> that it’s actually underrated or they have found other ways to save
  >> power.  I definitely notice more aggressive regen control on eco mode
  >> but we are seeing 120-125 mile on the display even after using 5-8% of
  >> the
  >> battery.   Considering you can drive one for about $4K a year, almost no
  >> maintenance, and about ¼ of the cost of gas, it’s got to be one of the
  >> best values out there.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> Rory
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
  >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2017 9:08 AM
  >> *To:* af@afmug.com
  >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> I find it interesting they can upgrade a battery with software...
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> *From:*can...@believewireless.net
  >>
  >> *Sent:*Saturday, March 18, 2017 10:06 AM
  >>
  >> *To:*af@afmug.com
  >>
  >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> I highly doubt people were just buying the 75 as they say. Think this
  >> will hurt sales? They already did this to the Model X.
  >>
  >> Or are they hoping the Model 3 will fill the gap?
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
  >>
  >> Interesting note from Tesla this morning:
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> Customers who still want the opportunity to own a 60 kWh Model S will
  >> have until April 16, 2017 to place their order. Any 60 kWh Model S
  >> will have the ability to upgrade their battery to 75 kWh via an over
  >> the air update.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >

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