40A is what’s necessary for the 8 hour chargers.  Want to charge your 100kWh 
Tesla in a few hours, spend about $10K with the electric company and get them 
to pull another 100A to your house at 480v I think.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 2:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla

220/221

30 amp at least.  I think I would wire a 40 or 50 amp circuit for it.

From: Lewis Bergman
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 3:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla

For you guys with your fancy electric cars. I don't have one, Not sure I'll 
ever get one. But I am building a new house and want to make sure I allow for 
all the wild things that may take place one day. Is it just a 220 or something?

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:36 PM Chuck McCown 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
E=MC^2 I think probably has a tad more energy than just the M...

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 2:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla

It was a joke about the "Solar System"   and as  such is a birthright...

On 3/20/17 9:06 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
> How much do you get paid for that.  In Phoenix, it's pretty low and they
> just added a $50 per month charge to connect to the grid.
>
> Rory
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 10:46 AM
> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
>
> My solar system stores energy in the form of gravity potential...
>
> On 3/20/17 5:59 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> My solar system stores excess energy as credit on the bill.  So I can
>> use it anytime of day.
>>
>> *From:* Rory Conaway
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2017 3:21 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
>>
>>
>> Our rate is 5.9 cents per kWh under a special program for electric car
>> owners.
>>
>>
>>
>> Most of my wife’s driving is 70mph or less and more city driving than
>> what you probably do.  We probably charge 50 miles per day average and
>> the car gets about 3.5-4m per kWh.
>>
>>
>>
>> Our worst rate is about 10.1 cents per kWh on peak during the week.
>> Solar doesn’t help us in charging since the care is gone at 7:30am and
>> doesn’t get home until after 6:30.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 19, 2017 9:50 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
>>
>>
>>
>> I am getting about 1 mile per percent.  I never trust that display, I
>> always use battery percentage.  But I drive 80 mph everywhere, freeway.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am solar powered at my house and other people pay for the power other
>> places I charge.   So there is no cost of energy for me.
>>
>>
>>
>> But if I was paying, it would be about 12 cents per kWh  (it can go as
>> low as 8 cents depending on how you do  it).  So $3.60/charge or 3
>> cents per mile.  (2.4 cents per mile at the lower tariff)
>>
>>
>>
>> Hyundai was getting 34 mpg.  So 7.4 cents per mile.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:*Rory Conaway
>>
>> *Sent:*Sunday, March 19, 2017 9:57 PM
>>
>> *To:*af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
>>
>>
>>
>> So after 2 days with the Leaf and the 30Kw battery, our estimate is
>> that it’s actually underrated or they have found other ways to save
>> power.  I definitely notice more aggressive regen control on eco mode
>> but we are seeing 120-125 mile on the display even after using 5-8% of
>> the
>> battery.   Considering you can drive one for about $4K a year, almost no
>> maintenance, and about ¼ of the cost of gas, it’s got to be one of the
>> best values out there.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2017 9:08 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
>>
>>
>>
>> I find it interesting they can upgrade a battery with software...
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:*can...@believewireless.net
>>
>> *Sent:*Saturday, March 18, 2017 10:06 AM
>>
>> *To:*af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
>>
>>
>>
>> I highly doubt people were just buying the 75 as they say. Think this
>> will hurt sales? They already did this to the Model X.
>>
>> Or are they hoping the Model 3 will fill the gap?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Chuck McCown 
>> <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting note from Tesla this morning:
>>
>>
>>
>> Customers who still want the opportunity to own a 60 kWh Model S will
>> have until April 16, 2017 to place their order. Any 60 kWh Model S
>> will have the ability to upgrade their battery to 75 kWh via an over
>> the air update.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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