Rory
Careful too bulky to maneuver on a man lift let alone
line up and twist into place
Mitch
On 05/16/2017 03:33 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:
I’m going to use a man-lift assuming the antenna is under 500lbs.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mitch Koep
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:04 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna
These are not real fun
Especially over 170 feet pray for a calm day and
a good crane operator
Mitch
On 05/16/2017 11:22 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
16’ dish
*From:*Mathew Howard
*Sent:*Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:18 AM
*To:*af
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
antenna
Yeah, but what if it doesn't work with the 8' dish? once you have
some kind of a link in place, it's pretty easy to get a good idea
of what's going to happen when you get bigger dishes on there.
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Rory Conaway
<r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
The amount of revenue is high enough that the cost of the
antenna isn’t an issue. It’s more important that the link work.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew
Howard
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:04 AM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2
MIMO antenna
Putting up an 8' dish without having any idea what it's going
to do seems kind of risky - I'd assume that's not going to be
cheap to put that up. I would want to put up some kind of a
test link before I went there, even if it was just a pair of
PowerBeams.
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Rory Conaway
<r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
I ran the numbers in linkplanner. Too much tree variable for
anything to be accurate.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino A.
Villarini
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:36 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2
MIMO antenna
Cambium LinkPlanner would help you get a good guess of your
outcome, use the PTP 25600 Radio as a AF2 replacement in your
calcs, add the foliage and voila!
*From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Rory Conaway
<r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
*Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Date: *Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 11:18 AM
*To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2
MIMO antenna
Not in this case. If they won’t let me put a 1 or 2’ dish on
the tower they run to get extra bandwidth to the school (7
T1’s for 300 kids) or the medical clinic (2 T-1’s), I’m
thinking they aren’t going to let me cut down or trim a mile
of trees.
Everytime I proposed something I was answered with “we have a
plan, just be patient”. Not really my strong suit. This plan
involves towers but nobody knows who gets awarded or when.
So, 2.4GHz through a mile of trees, here I come.
I thought of the 2’ dish and see what happens but I don’t want
to have to pay tower climbers so do this twice. I’m going to
do the 8’ dish on the tower and 2’ dish on the roof. Once I
see those numbers, I can make adjustments on the roof.
Biggest issue is AF2 through trees. I’m thinking that I’m
bringing up a pair of ePMP 2.4GHz radios also to compare. I’m
also considering putting up a Cambium 450i 900MHz as backup
with a Yagi.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck
McCown
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:44 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2
MIMO antenna
Actually, you would be surprised. I have asked them to remove
trees in a microwave path before and they had no problem doing
it.
/*Gino A. Villarini*/
President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
*From:*Rory Conaway
*Sent:*Monday, May 15, 2017 9:15 PM
*To:*af@afmug.com
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2
MIMO antenna
I’d like to stay out of jail and I’m pretty sure the U.S.
Forestry service frowns on that.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
*Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 1:23 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2
MIMO antenna
Have you considered the rigging/hoisting and mounting costs of
8' dishes, vs chainsaw or doing something more creative in
dish location with 2.5'/3' size dishes to get real LOS?
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:23 AM, Rory Conaway
<r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
I’ve got to punch through a mile of trees with AF2x radio so
I’m probably going to for the 6’ or 8’ dishes.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Colin
Stanners
*Sent:* Sunday, May 14, 2017 7:05 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2
MIMO antenna
Gain is never an exact number as it always varies over the
covered frequency range and polarization, but from what I
understand Ubiquiti overstates their gain by 2-3 db over the
'industry standard' measurements. Similar to how they say the
AF24 can go up to 10miles, which is effectively bs, the max
99.99% availability reliable range is 3-4 miles almost
anywhere on earth that a substantial number of those radios
coild be installed.
On May 14, 2017 8:44 PM, "Christopher Gray"
<cg...@graytechsoftware.com
<mailto:cg...@graytechsoftware.com>> wrote:
Gain is not quite as high as you are asking for, but L-Com
goes up to a 900mm dish. I can't quite tell if UBNT over
states their gain, L-Com understates their gain, or if there
is another fundamental difference, but the L-Com 900mm dish is
only rated at 25 dBi.
I have not used it, but I've been happy with their 400mm unit.
http://www.l-com.com/wireless-antenna-24-ghz-dual-polarized-dpd-series-parabolic-dish-antennas
-Chris
On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke
<eric.kuh...@gmail.com <mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have not seen one that is anywhere near reasonably priced
and can be equipped with a (first party or third party) side
shield/radome kit. The Radiowaves stuff exists but is a design
from 15 years ago. Willing to bet the Radiowaves 3' and 4'
size 2.4 GHz dishes are great at gathering unwanted 2.4 noise
from the sides...
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Rory Conaway
<r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Looking for something bigger than the Ubiquiti RD-24 dish.
Rory
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