Chuck, looks great for smaller stuff and tapering towers. But I seriously hope you are not recommending mounting an 8' dish on a 2.5" pipe (item #1 in your PDF's BOM). Every 6' and 8' dish I've ever seen in person needs a 4.50" OD pipe.
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > Or if you want the really good stuff: > http://www.mccowntech.com/product_images/import/M-TOW-SM60.PDF > > *From:* Eric Kuhnke > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:15 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna > > Yeah, the strut and attachment hardware for it are also going to be at > least 75 to 85 lbs together. > > Some examples of what I'm talking about, before adding the stiff-arm > strut: http://sitepro1.com/resources/pdf/assembly-drawings/TAP-472% > 20(Assembly).pdf (240 lbs) > > http://sitepro1.com/resources/pdf/assembly-drawings/UAS60%20(Assembly).pdf > (158 lbs) > > http://sitepro1.com/resources/pdf/assembly-drawings/LPM3%20(Assembly).pdf > (126 lbs) > > > > > > On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Jesse Dupont < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Don't forget to strut the edge of the dish back to the tower. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Eric Kuhnke < >> [email protected]> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:11:35 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO >> antenna >> >> Now go to sitepro1.com, find the tower steel section, and find a >> standoff mount suitable for a 4.50" OD sch80 galvanized pipe and the wind >> loading of an 8' dish... The pipe and mount are going to weigh 300 pounds >> guaranteed... You're not gonna mount a 8' dish direct to a tower, no >> matter what type it might be, tapering self supported with tubular legs, >> angle steel legs, or vertical guyed tower. >> >> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> http://www.commscope.com/catalog/wireless/product_details.aspx?id=25986 >>> >>> 276 lbs. That said, that's without radome. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50:07 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO >>> antenna >>> >>> An 8' dish is way over 500 pounds. Do you have any idea how expensive it >>> is to put an 8' dish on a tower??? And have you calculated if the tower >>> can even take the new wind loading of an 8' dish at EIA/TIA 222G >>> calculations for its exposure category? >>> >>> Weight aside the wind loading of an 8' dish is considerable. >>> >>> If you do end up hanging the thing from a man lift I want photos, >>> because there are a few OSHA inspectors I would like to give nightmares to. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I’m going to use a man-lift assuming the antenna is under 500lbs. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mitch Koep >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:04 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO >>>> antenna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> These are not real fun >>>> >>>> Especially over 170 feet pray for a calm day and >>>> >>>> a good crane operator >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mitch >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 05/16/2017 11:22 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>> >>>> 16’ dish >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Mathew Howard >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:18 AM >>>> >>>> *To:* af >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO >>>> antenna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yeah, but what if it doesn't work with the 8' dish? once you have some >>>> kind of a link in place, it's pretty easy to get a good idea of what's >>>> going to happen when you get bigger dishes on there. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The amount of revenue is high enough that the cost of the antenna isn’t >>>> an issue. It’s more important that the link work. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:04 AM >>>> *To:* af >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO >>>> antenna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Putting up an 8' dish without having any idea what it's going to do >>>> seems kind of risky - I'd assume that's not going to be cheap to put that >>>> up. I would want to put up some kind of a test link before I went there, >>>> even if it was just a pair of PowerBeams. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I ran the numbers in linkplanner. Too much tree variable for anything >>>> to be accurate. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Gino A. >>>> Villarini >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:36 AM >>>> >>>> >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO >>>> antenna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cambium LinkPlanner would help you get a good guess of your outcome, >>>> use the PTP 25600 Radio as a AF2 replacement in your calcs, add the foliage >>>> and voila! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From: *Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Rory Conaway < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> *Reply-To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>> *Date: *Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 11:18 AM >>>> *To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO >>>> antenna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Not in this case. If they won’t let me put a 1 or 2’ dish on the tower >>>> they run to get extra bandwidth to the school (7 T1’s for 300 kids) or the >>>> medical clinic (2 T-1’s), I’m thinking they aren’t going to let me cut down >>>> or trim a mile of trees. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Everytime I proposed something I was answered with “we have a plan, >>>> just be patient”. Not really my strong suit. This plan involves towers but >>>> nobody knows who gets awarded or when. So, 2.4GHz through a mile of >>>> trees, here I come. >>>> >>>> I thought of the 2’ dish and see what happens but I don’t want to have >>>> to pay tower climbers so do this twice. I’m going to do the 8’ dish on the >>>> tower and 2’ dish on the roof. Once I see those numbers, I can make >>>> adjustments on the roof. Biggest issue is AF2 through trees. I’m thinking >>>> that I’m bringing up a pair of ePMP 2.4GHz radios also to compare. I’m >>>> also considering putting up a Cambium 450i 900MHz as backup with a Yagi. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:44 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO >>>> antenna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Actually, you would be surprised. I have asked them to remove trees in >>>> a microwave path before and they had no problem doing it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Gino A. Villarini* >>>> >>>> President >>>> >>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >>>> >>>> *From:* Rory Conaway >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 9:15 PM >>>> >>>> *To:*[email protected] >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO >>>> antenna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I’d like to stay out of jail and I’m pretty sure the U.S. Forestry >>>> service frowns on that. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke >>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 1:23 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO >>>> antenna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Have you considered the rigging/hoisting and mounting costs of 8' >>>> dishes, vs chainsaw or doing something more creative in dish location with >>>> 2.5'/3' size dishes to get real LOS? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:23 AM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I’ve got to punch through a mile of trees with AF2x radio so I’m >>>> probably going to for the 6’ or 8’ dishes. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 14, 2017 7:05 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO >>>> antenna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Gain is never an exact number as it always varies over the covered >>>> frequency range and polarization, but from what I understand Ubiquiti >>>> overstates their gain by 2-3 db over the 'industry standard' measurements. >>>> Similar to how they say the AF24 can go up to 10miles, which is effectively >>>> bs, the max 99.99% availability reliable range is 3-4 miles almost anywhere >>>> on earth that a substantial number of those radios coild be installed. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 14, 2017 8:44 PM, "Christopher Gray" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Gain is not quite as high as you are asking for, but L-Com goes up to a >>>> 900mm dish. I can't quite tell if UBNT over states their gain, L-Com >>>> understates their gain, or if there is another fundamental difference, but >>>> the L-Com 900mm dish is only rated at 25 dBi. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have not used it, but I've been happy with their 400mm unit. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.l-com.com/wireless-antenna-24-ghz-dual-polarized- >>>> dpd-series-parabolic-dish-antennas >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Chris >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have not seen one that is anywhere near reasonably priced and can be >>>> equipped with a (first party or third party) side shield/radome kit. The >>>> Radiowaves stuff exists but is a design from 15 years ago. Willing to bet >>>> the Radiowaves 3' and 4' size 2.4 GHz dishes are great at gathering >>>> unwanted 2.4 noise from the sides... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Looking for something bigger than the Ubiquiti RD-24 dish. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Mitch Koep >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> A Better Wireless >>>> >>>> 218-851-8689 cell >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
