Now go to sitepro1.com, find the tower steel section, and find a standoff
mount suitable for a 4.50" OD sch80 galvanized pipe and the wind loading of
an 8' dish... The pipe and mount are going to weigh 300 pounds
guaranteed...  You're not gonna mount a 8' dish direct to a tower, no
matter what type it might be, tapering self supported with tubular legs,
angle steel legs, or vertical guyed tower.

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:

> http://www.commscope.com/catalog/wireless/product_details.aspx?id=25986
>
> 276 lbs. That said, that's without radome.
>
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> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50:07 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna
>
> An 8' dish is way over 500 pounds. Do you have any idea how expensive it
> is to put an 8' dish on a tower???  And have you calculated if the tower
> can even take the new wind loading of an 8' dish at EIA/TIA 222G
> calculations for its exposure category?
>
> Weight aside the wind loading of an 8' dish is considerable.
>
> If you do end up hanging the thing from a man lift I want photos, because
> there are a few OSHA inspectors I would like to give nightmares to.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I’m going to use a man-lift assuming the antenna is under 500lbs.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mitch Koep
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:04 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>> antenna
>>
>>
>>
>> These are not real fun
>>
>> Especially over 170 feet pray for a calm day and
>>
>> a good crane operator
>>
>>
>>
>> Mitch
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05/16/2017 11:22 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> 16’ dish
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:18 AM
>>
>> *To:* af
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>> antenna
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, but what if it doesn't work with the 8' dish? once you have some
>> kind of a link in place, it's pretty easy to get a good idea of what's
>> going to happen when you get bigger dishes on there.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The amount of revenue is high enough that the cost of the antenna isn’t
>> an issue.  It’s more important that the link work.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:04 AM
>> *To:* af
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>> antenna
>>
>>
>>
>> Putting up an 8' dish without having any idea what it's going to do seems
>> kind of risky - I'd assume that's not going to be cheap to put that up. I
>> would want to put up some kind of a test link before I went there, even if
>> it was just a pair of PowerBeams.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I ran the numbers in linkplanner.  Too much tree variable for anything to
>> be accurate.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:36 AM
>>
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>> antenna
>>
>>
>>
>> Cambium LinkPlanner would help you get a good guess of your outcome, use
>> the PTP 25600 Radio as a AF2 replacement in your calcs, add the foliage and
>> voila!
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Rory Conaway <
>> [email protected]>
>> *Reply-To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 11:18 AM
>> *To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>> antenna
>>
>>
>>
>> Not in this case.  If they won’t let me put a 1 or 2’ dish on the tower
>> they run to get extra bandwidth to the school (7 T1’s for 300 kids) or the
>> medical clinic (2 T-1’s), I’m thinking they aren’t going to let me cut down
>> or trim a mile of trees.
>>
>>
>>
>> Everytime I proposed something I was answered with “we have a plan, just
>> be patient”.  Not really my strong suit. This plan involves towers but
>> nobody knows who gets awarded or when.    So, 2.4GHz through a mile of
>> trees, here I come.
>>
>> I thought of the 2’ dish and see what happens but I don’t want to have to
>> pay tower climbers so do this twice.  I’m going to do the 8’ dish on the
>> tower and 2’ dish on the roof.  Once I see those numbers, I can make
>> adjustments on the roof.  Biggest issue is AF2 through trees.  I’m thinking
>> that I’m bringing up a pair of ePMP 2.4GHz radios also to compare.  I’m
>> also considering putting up a Cambium 450i 900MHz as backup with a Yagi.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:44 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>> antenna
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually, you would be surprised.  I have asked them to remove trees in a
>> microwave path before and they had no problem doing it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>
>> President
>>
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> *From:* Rory Conaway
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 9:15 PM
>>
>> *To:*[email protected]
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>> antenna
>>
>>
>>
>> I’d like to stay out of jail and I’m pretty sure the U.S. Forestry
>> service frowns on that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 1:23 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>> antenna
>>
>>
>>
>> Have you considered the rigging/hoisting and mounting costs of 8' dishes,
>> vs chainsaw or doing something more creative in dish location with 2.5'/3'
>> size dishes to get real LOS?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:23 AM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I’ve got to punch through a mile of trees with AF2x radio so I’m probably
>> going to for the 6’ or 8’ dishes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 14, 2017 7:05 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>> antenna
>>
>>
>>
>> Gain is never an exact number as it always varies over the covered
>> frequency range and polarization, but from what I understand Ubiquiti
>> overstates their gain by 2-3 db over the 'industry standard' measurements.
>> Similar to how they say the AF24 can go up to 10miles, which is effectively
>> bs, the max 99.99% availability reliable range is 3-4 miles almost anywhere
>> on earth that a substantial number of those radios coild be installed.
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 14, 2017 8:44 PM, "Christopher Gray" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Gain is not quite as high as you are asking for, but L-Com goes up to a
>> 900mm dish. I can't quite tell if UBNT over states their gain, L-Com
>> understates their gain, or if there is another fundamental difference, but
>> the L-Com 900mm dish is only rated at 25 dBi.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have not used it, but I've been happy with their 400mm unit.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.l-com.com/wireless-antenna-24-ghz-dual-polarized-
>> dpd-series-parabolic-dish-antennas
>>
>>
>>
>> -Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have not seen one that is anywhere near reasonably priced and can be
>> equipped with a (first party or third party) side shield/radome kit. The
>> Radiowaves stuff exists but is a design from 15 years ago. Willing to bet
>> the Radiowaves 3' and 4' size 2.4 GHz dishes are great at gathering
>> unwanted 2.4 noise from the sides...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Looking for something bigger than the Ubiquiti RD-24 dish.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mitch Koep
>>
>>
>>
>> A Better Wireless
>>
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>>
>>
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