Yeah, the strut and attachment hardware for it are also going to be at
least 75 to 85 lbs together.

Some examples of what I'm talking about, before adding the stiff-arm strut:
http://sitepro1.com/resources/pdf/assembly-drawings/TAP-472%20(Assembly).pdf
 (240 lbs)

http://sitepro1.com/resources/pdf/assembly-drawings/UAS60%20(Assembly).pdf
(158 lbs)

http://sitepro1.com/resources/pdf/assembly-drawings/LPM3%20(Assembly).pdf
(126 lbs)





On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Jesse Dupont <[email protected]
> wrote:

> Don't forget to strut the edge of the dish back to the tower.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Eric Kuhnke <
> [email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:11:35 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna
>
> Now go to sitepro1.com, find the tower steel section, and find a standoff
> mount suitable for a 4.50" OD sch80 galvanized pipe and the wind loading of
> an 8' dish... The pipe and mount are going to weigh 300 pounds
> guaranteed...  You're not gonna mount a 8' dish direct to a tower, no
> matter what type it might be, tapering self supported with tubular legs,
> angle steel legs, or vertical guyed tower.
>
> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> http://www.commscope.com/catalog/wireless/product_details.aspx?id=25986
>>
>> 276 lbs. That said, that's without radome.
>>
>>
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *[email protected]
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50:07 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>> antenna
>>
>> An 8' dish is way over 500 pounds. Do you have any idea how expensive it
>> is to put an 8' dish on a tower???  And have you calculated if the tower
>> can even take the new wind loading of an 8' dish at EIA/TIA 222G
>> calculations for its exposure category?
>>
>> Weight aside the wind loading of an 8' dish is considerable.
>>
>> If you do end up hanging the thing from a man lift I want photos, because
>> there are a few OSHA inspectors I would like to give nightmares to.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m going to use a man-lift assuming the antenna is under 500lbs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mitch Koep
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:04 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>>> antenna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> These are not real fun
>>>
>>> Especially over 170 feet pray for a calm day and
>>>
>>> a good crane operator
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mitch
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/16/2017 11:22 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> 16’ dish
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:18 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* af
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>>> antenna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, but what if it doesn't work with the 8' dish? once you have some
>>> kind of a link in place, it's pretty easy to get a good idea of what's
>>> going to happen when you get bigger dishes on there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The amount of revenue is high enough that the cost of the antenna isn’t
>>> an issue.  It’s more important that the link work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:04 AM
>>> *To:* af
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>>> antenna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Putting up an 8' dish without having any idea what it's going to do
>>> seems kind of risky - I'd assume that's not going to be cheap to put that
>>> up. I would want to put up some kind of a test link before I went there,
>>> even if it was just a pair of PowerBeams.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I ran the numbers in linkplanner.  Too much tree variable for anything
>>> to be accurate.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:36 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>>> antenna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cambium LinkPlanner would help you get a good guess of your outcome, use
>>> the PTP 25600 Radio as a AF2 replacement in your calcs, add the foliage and
>>> voila!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Rory Conaway <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> *Reply-To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> *Date: *Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 11:18 AM
>>> *To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>>> antenna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not in this case.  If they won’t let me put a 1 or 2’ dish on the tower
>>> they run to get extra bandwidth to the school (7 T1’s for 300 kids) or the
>>> medical clinic (2 T-1’s), I’m thinking they aren’t going to let me cut down
>>> or trim a mile of trees.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Everytime I proposed something I was answered with “we have a plan, just
>>> be patient”.  Not really my strong suit. This plan involves towers but
>>> nobody knows who gets awarded or when.    So, 2.4GHz through a mile of
>>> trees, here I come.
>>>
>>> I thought of the 2’ dish and see what happens but I don’t want to have
>>> to pay tower climbers so do this twice.  I’m going to do the 8’ dish on the
>>> tower and 2’ dish on the roof.  Once I see those numbers, I can make
>>> adjustments on the roof.  Biggest issue is AF2 through trees.  I’m thinking
>>> that I’m bringing up a pair of ePMP 2.4GHz radios also to compare.  I’m
>>> also considering putting up a Cambium 450i 900MHz as backup with a Yagi.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:44 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>>> antenna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually, you would be surprised.  I have asked them to remove trees in
>>> a microwave path before and they had no problem doing it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>>
>>> President
>>>
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>> *From:* Rory Conaway
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 9:15 PM
>>>
>>> *To:*[email protected]
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>>> antenna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’d like to stay out of jail and I’m pretty sure the U.S. Forestry
>>> service frowns on that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 1:23 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>>> antenna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Have you considered the rigging/hoisting and mounting costs of 8'
>>> dishes, vs chainsaw or doing something more creative in dish location with
>>> 2.5'/3' size dishes to get real LOS?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:23 AM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I’ve got to punch through a mile of trees with AF2x radio so I’m
>>> probably going to for the 6’ or 8’ dishes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 14, 2017 7:05 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>>> antenna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gain is never an exact number as it always varies over the covered
>>> frequency range and polarization, but from what I understand Ubiquiti
>>> overstates their gain by 2-3 db over the 'industry standard' measurements.
>>> Similar to how they say the AF24 can go up to 10miles, which is effectively
>>> bs, the max 99.99% availability reliable range is 3-4 miles almost anywhere
>>> on earth that a substantial number of those radios coild be installed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 14, 2017 8:44 PM, "Christopher Gray" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Gain is not quite as high as you are asking for, but L-Com goes up to a
>>> 900mm dish. I can't quite tell if UBNT over states their gain, L-Com
>>> understates their gain, or if there is another fundamental difference, but
>>> the L-Com 900mm dish is only rated at 25 dBi.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have not used it, but I've been happy with their 400mm unit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.l-com.com/wireless-antenna-24-ghz-dual-polarized-
>>> dpd-series-parabolic-dish-antennas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have not seen one that is anywhere near reasonably priced and can be
>>> equipped with a (first party or third party) side shield/radome kit. The
>>> Radiowaves stuff exists but is a design from 15 years ago. Willing to bet
>>> the Radiowaves 3' and 4' size 2.4 GHz dishes are great at gathering
>>> unwanted 2.4 noise from the sides...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Looking for something bigger than the Ubiquiti RD-24 dish.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mitch Koep
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A Better Wireless
>>>
>>> 218-851-8689 cell
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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