Yeah. I really think it's the better way to go for transitioning the majority of the customers to GPON. Power, rack space, etc. I think the ZTE lets you do 16 PON and 24 CSFP. I honestly haven't look at GPON stuff much in the last couple months due to too much shit to do. Probably gonna go that path this fall. We'll most likely end up leaving the business customers on BiDi AE, and as long as we're sticking in a GPON shelf, it makes sense to put everything on a common platform.

On 7/31/2017 4:15 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:
With an E7-2 it would be one 24 port card with 48 active subs and one GPON-8 card with 256 subs at 1-32 or 512 subs at 1-64. (1-64 is pushing it). All in 1U.

"If I were you, I would take a serious look at GPON shelves like ZTE and Calix. CSFP modules let you put two BiDi AE customers on a single slot. 24 port line-card = 48 AE customers. Then I think you can do 8 or 16 port PON cards, 1:32 split = 256 or 512 customers on a single 3U? 4U? chassis, + the 48 AE customers"

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 5:06 PM, George Skorup <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    If I were you, I would take a serious look at GPON shelves like
    ZTE and Calix. CSFP modules let you put two BiDi AE customers on a
    single slot. 24 port line-card = 48 AE customers. Then I think you
    can do 8 or 16 port PON cards, 1:32 split = 256 or 512 customers
    on a single 3U? 4U? chassis, + the 48 AE customers. This is
    probably what we're going to end up doing with the AE deployment
    we're managing now. The AE is extremely underutilized and it
    should've been GPON from the get-go.

    If you're doing BiDi now and all the customers home-run to your
    cabinet, put the GPON splitters at the cabinet. Cake walk. Same
    boat we're in. Except some retrofit because they used a PAIR per
    customer. And Clearfield built everything duplex LC. So one strand
    won't get used in the field. Big whoop. Call the unused one a
    backup. I love it when nobody listens to me. Coulda started BiDi
    and went right to GPON with minimal changes.

    On 7/31/2017 3:29 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

    Ok, so that is the share ratio then.

    If I put on 18 customers on a port they would all share the 2.5
    down by 1.25 up.

    Or if I use 8 instead 4 of the UBNT Fiber OLT I can get 9
    customers on that ratio.

    That would be 8 U plus 4 U space, which I think is probably my
    max amount of rack space in the cabinets I am using right now.

    That is likely a lot less power than the 12U of 48 port switches
    I can use right now, but the share ratio is obviously much worse
    in the long run.

    Maybe I do a Hybrid and put 4 of the OLT, and still have 4x48
    ports active…

    Then in the future if I run into clients complaining about their
    1Gbps rate plan not being fast enough on the share ratio of 1 to
    18, I can move them back to 1 to 1 active.

    *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
    *Sent:* Monday, July 31, 2017 2:22 PM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet
    to GPON

    GPON is 2.5 downstream 1.25 upstream per port.



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    *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]
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    *To: *"[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]
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    *Sent: *Monday, July 31, 2017 3:19:36 PM
    *Subject: *[AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON

    Anyone tried their PON OLT CPE and OLT 8 port (128 clients per
    port) 1U unit?

    I see pricing around $70 retail for OLT, but haven't seen pricing
    yet for the OLT 1U unit.

    Also, I'm active fiber right now, so I have full 1 to 1 panels in
    the rack already.

    If I wanted to 'migrate' to OLT from active I would need some
    sort of transition panel/setup right?

    Right now my density is 48 ports per 1U 1 to 1 single family home
    connections.

    The UBNT Fiber OLT has 8 ports handling up to 128 clients each,
    with 20Gbps uplink capability (not quite sure on those split
    details yet).

    I currently only take a max of 576 per cabinet on active, so I
    could easily use just one of these UBNT fiber OLT units.
    If I don't care about the share ratio I guess, I would just get
    another 576 panel count that spliced 72 count to each port and
    I'm done.

    I'm unclear what that panel/splice would look like though since
    I've never actually done GPON.

    And I would probably want to not load up that many per port, and
    instead maybe get four of the UBNT Fiber OLT units.
    That would take up 4U of rack space, the fanout would probably
    still take up 4U of rack space, for a total of 8 U.
    And I would have instead an 18 customer to 1 port on the GPON
    instead of 72 which I like better for future use.

    Do these UFiber OLT 1U rackmount units share just 1Gbps per each
    of the 8 ports? That would only be 8Gbps needed total.
    So I assume the GPON spec they are using can transmit more than
    that per each of the 8 GPON ports, right?





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