ONT's are sub $30.  Put 200 subs on the chassis and see what your overall
cost is.  You'll save about $7k.  Also ZTE is 2 cards at 16 ports per card.
 32 total PON ports.

Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Jon Langeler <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I saw ZTE starting at $2k plus. How is that cheaper? Also is the
> management via CLI?
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:36 AM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I'm surprised you are bothering with UBNT when a platform like ZTE is
> significantly more stable.   Cheaper too.
>
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 6:35 PM Jason McKemie <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The Calix active stuff is $$$$$ though, especially when you do the CSFP
>> modules.  Something like the Ignitenet Fusionswitch fiber and Fiberstore
>> bidi SFPs is much more reasonable.  I can sacrifice 1RU per 24 customers
>> for that kind of price difference.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 4:06 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If I were you, I would take a serious look at GPON shelves like ZTE and
>>> Calix. CSFP modules let you put two BiDi AE customers on a single slot. 24
>>> port line-card = 48 AE customers. Then I think you can do 8 or 16 port PON
>>> cards, 1:32 split = 256 or 512 customers on a single 3U? 4U? chassis, + the
>>> 48 AE customers. This is probably what we're going to end up doing with the
>>> AE deployment we're managing now. The AE is extremely underutilized and it
>>> should've been GPON from the get-go.
>>>
>>> If you're doing BiDi now and all the customers home-run to your cabinet,
>>> put the GPON splitters at the cabinet. Cake walk. Same boat we're in.
>>> Except some retrofit because they used a PAIR per customer. And Clearfield
>>> built everything duplex LC. So one strand won't get used in the field. Big
>>> whoop. Call the unused one a backup. I love it when nobody listens to me.
>>> Coulda started BiDi and went right to GPON with minimal changes.
>>>
>>> On 7/31/2017 3:29 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
>>>
>> Ok, so that is the share ratio then.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If I put on 18 customers on a port they would all share the 2.5 down by
>>> 1.25 up.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Or if I use 8 instead 4 of the UBNT Fiber OLT I can get 9 customers on
>>> that ratio.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That would be 8 U plus 4 U space, which I think is probably my max
>>> amount of rack space in the cabinets I am using right now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That is likely a lot less power than the 12U of 48 port switches I can
>>> use right now, but the share ratio is obviously much worse in the long run.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe I do a Hybrid and put 4 of the OLT, and still have 4x48 ports
>>> active…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Then in the future if I run into clients complaining about their 1Gbps
>>> rate plan not being fast enough on the share ratio of 1 to 18, I can move
>>> them back to 1 to 1 active.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 31, 2017 2:22 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> GPON is 2.5 downstream 1.25 upstream per port.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
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>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent: *Monday, July 31, 2017 3:19:36 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
>>>
>>> Anyone tried their PON OLT CPE and OLT 8 port (128 clients per port) 1U
>>> unit?
>>>
>>> I see pricing around $70 retail for OLT, but haven't seen pricing yet
>>> for the OLT 1U unit.
>>>
>>> Also, I'm active fiber right now, so I have full 1 to 1 panels in the
>>> rack already.
>>>
>>> If I wanted to 'migrate' to OLT from active I would need some sort of
>>> transition panel/setup right?
>>>
>>> Right now my density is 48 ports per 1U 1 to 1 single family home
>>> connections.
>>>
>>> The UBNT Fiber OLT has 8 ports handling up to 128 clients each, with
>>> 20Gbps uplink capability (not quite sure on those split details yet).
>>>
>>> I currently only take a max of 576 per cabinet on active, so I could
>>> easily use just one of these UBNT fiber OLT units.
>>> If I don't care about the share ratio I guess, I would just get another
>>> 576 panel count that spliced 72 count to each port and I'm done.
>>>
>>> I'm unclear what that panel/splice would look like though since I've
>>> never actually done GPON.
>>>
>>> And I would probably want to not load up that many per port, and instead
>>> maybe get four of the UBNT Fiber OLT units.
>>> That would take up 4U of rack space, the fanout would probably still
>>> take up 4U of rack space, for a total of 8 U.
>>> And I would have instead an 18 customer to 1 port on the GPON instead of
>>> 72 which I like better for future use.
>>>
>>> Do these UFiber OLT 1U rackmount units share just 1Gbps per each of the
>>> 8 ports? That would only be 8Gbps needed total.
>>> So I assume the GPON spec they are using can transmit more than that per
>>> each of the 8 GPON ports, right?
>>>
>>> --
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>

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