I saw ZTE starting at $2k plus. How is that cheaper? Also is the management via CLI?
Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:36 AM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm surprised you are bothering with UBNT when a platform like ZTE is > significantly more stable. Cheaper too. > >> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 6:35 PM Jason McKemie >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> The Calix active stuff is $$$$$ though, especially when you do the CSFP >> modules. Something like the Ignitenet Fusionswitch fiber and Fiberstore >> bidi SFPs is much more reasonable. I can sacrifice 1RU per 24 customers for >> that kind of price difference. >> >>> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 4:06 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >> >>> If I were you, I would take a serious look at GPON shelves like ZTE and >>> Calix. CSFP modules let you put two BiDi AE customers on a single slot. 24 >>> port line-card = 48 AE customers. Then I think you can do 8 or 16 port PON >>> cards, 1:32 split = 256 or 512 customers on a single 3U? 4U? chassis, + the >>> 48 AE customers. This is probably what we're going to end up doing with the >>> AE deployment we're managing now. The AE is extremely underutilized and it >>> should've been GPON from the get-go. >>> >>> If you're doing BiDi now and all the customers home-run to your cabinet, >>> put the GPON splitters at the cabinet. Cake walk. Same boat we're in. >>> Except some retrofit because they used a PAIR per customer. And Clearfield >>> built everything duplex LC. So one strand won't get used in the field. Big >>> whoop. Call the unused one a backup. I love it when nobody listens to me. >>> Coulda started BiDi and went right to GPON with minimal changes. >>> >>>> On 7/31/2017 3:29 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: >> >>>> Ok, so that is the share ratio then. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If I put on 18 customers on a port they would all share the 2.5 down by >>>> 1.25 up. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Or if I use 8 instead 4 of the UBNT Fiber OLT I can get 9 customers on >>>> that ratio. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> That would be 8 U plus 4 U space, which I think is probably my max amount >>>> of rack space in the cabinets I am using right now. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> That is likely a lot less power than the 12U of 48 port switches I can use >>>> right now, but the share ratio is obviously much worse in the long run. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Maybe I do a Hybrid and put 4 of the OLT, and still have 4x48 >>>> ports active… >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Then in the future if I run into clients complaining about their 1Gbps >>>> rate plan not being fast enough on the share ratio of 1 to 18, I can move >>>> them back to 1 to 1 active. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> >>>> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 2:22 PM >>>> >> >>>> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >>>> GPON is 2.5 downstream 1.25 upstream per port. >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>> >>>> The Brothers WISP >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> From: "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]> >>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 3:19:36 PM >>>> >> >>>> >>>> Subject: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON >>>> >>>> Anyone tried their PON OLT CPE and OLT 8 port (128 clients per port) 1U >>>> unit? >>>> >>>> I see pricing around $70 retail for OLT, but haven't seen pricing yet for >>>> the OLT 1U unit. >>>> >>>> Also, I'm active fiber right now, so I have full 1 to 1 panels in the rack >>>> already. >>>> >>>> If I wanted to 'migrate' to OLT from active I would need some sort of >>>> transition panel/setup right? >>>> >>>> Right now my density is 48 ports per 1U 1 to 1 single family home >>>> connections. >>>> >>>> The UBNT Fiber OLT has 8 ports handling up to 128 clients each, with >>>> 20Gbps uplink capability (not quite sure on those split details yet). >>>> >>>> I currently only take a max of 576 per cabinet on active, so I could >>>> easily use just one of these UBNT fiber OLT units. >>>> If I don't care about the share ratio I guess, I would just get another >>>> 576 panel count that spliced 72 count to each port and I'm done. >>>> >>>> I'm unclear what that panel/splice would look like though since I've never >>>> actually done GPON. >>>> >>>> And I would probably want to not load up that many per port, and instead >>>> maybe get four of the UBNT Fiber OLT units. >>>> That would take up 4U of rack space, the fanout would probably still take >>>> up 4U of rack space, for a total of 8 U. >>>> And I would have instead an 18 customer to 1 port on the GPON instead of >>>> 72 which I like better for future use. >>>> >>>> Do these UFiber OLT 1U rackmount units share just 1Gbps per each of the 8 >>>> ports? That would only be 8Gbps needed total. >>>> So I assume the GPON spec they are using can transmit more than that per >>>> each of the 8 GPON ports, right? >>>> > > -- > Regards, > Chuck
