I believe the issue is that the picture may not represent the actual IX in 
question (or MMR of the building where the IX is located might be more 
accurate).  Basically, and pardon me possibly putting words in some people’s 
mouthes here, when a group of people put a lot of work into something and then 
a picture of that work is used elsewhere to possibly resemble where a potential 
employee would work then it’s just misleading and could be considered offensive 
to the people who did all the work originally ….. make sense?

You’ll notice my choice of words here because I’m making assumptions about why 
the folks involved are upset and try to put myself in their shoes, at which 
point, if I have all my facts straight, I would be quite upset as well because 
it would look like someone else is taking complete credit for someone else’s 
work …. In the world of IX’s (something I do know a lot about) there is often 
people who don’t get pay checks as they volunteer however they get the rewards 
to contributing towards a great thing for the community … if you haven’t been 
involved at that level you may not understand anything I’m suggesting here ….


> On Aug 5, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Mitch Koep <af...@abwisp.com> wrote:
> Question??
> Eric
> Why are you so upset?
> Did you have a bad dealing with someone and this is get back at them time?
> I agree with Faisal it's a picture
> Mitch
> On 8/5/2017 11:29 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>> Share with you a related story....
>> I was in a Conf. room of one of our Colo Facilities Providers, they had some 
>> pictures on their Conf. Room wall, which all were nice.. but there was one 
>> picture that caught eye and appeared to be very familiar.. it was a picture 
>> of cluster of antennas mounted on the roof of that facility...
>> Upon a closer look, I recognized that that cluster was our antennas ! ... so 
>> instantly two emotions came to mind... one was .. Hey that is a nice picture 
>> ! I know to whom that stuff belongs to !... and the second... How dare you 
>> take pictures of my equipment and hang it your conf. room (we don't buy roof 
>> access from them)  !...
>> To me personally, the former feeling overcame the latter reaction... and I 
>> actually felt proud of our little Cluster that someone viewed presentable 
>> enough to put in their conf. room.
>> Having said that.. if you are not the copyright owner of the photo.. then 
>> why does it bother you at all ? Hopefully you should feel proud that picture 
>> of an actual facility you know is being liked by others and being promoted 
>> on the net... 
>> and that is IMHO !
>> Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions and your mileage may vary !.
>> :)
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
>> <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>
>> From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> <mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 7:38:33 PM
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX
>> I am not the copyright owner of the photo in question. This is only a 
>> request. 
>> Please stop using the photo of the Westin Building 1901 fiber meet-me room 
>> to advertise the Missouri IX. 
>> Property owners and ISPs in the Pacific Northwest have spent a great deal of 
>> time, money and effort building traffic exchange infrastructure.
>> In my opinion is not an accurate or factual depiction of whatever facilities 
>> may currently exist in Missouri to use a photograph from a carrier hotel in 
>> downtown Seattle.
>> <image.png>

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