that would be an issue to take up with WECAT, they should have contacts for
logistics. If gino serves any critical facilities (hospitals, long term
care, fire/rescue/ems/military/municipality/etc) stuff like that may be
able to find its way onto military transport

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I would imagine they'd have to go by boat... not sure how quick you could
> get it there.
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to ship you COWs?  I can build a few and send them.  Not
>> sure if I can get them to you fast enough to help.
>>
>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>
>> Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded).  Need
>> Gens, COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.)
>>
>> From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Lewis Bergman <
>> [email protected]>
>> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Date: Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM
>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>
>> Yep, exactly what I said.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring
>>> internet service.....
>>>
>>> May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve
>>> our Customers, and that is how we earn a living...
>>>
>>> Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns...
>>> One.... How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our
>>> Infrastructure.
>>> Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ?  Do we have any
>>> left who are able to use the service and pay for it ?
>>>
>>> Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the
>>> Customers (end users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it,
>>> then such functional infrastructure is of little value.
>>>
>>> (I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just
>>> pointing to realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of
>>> us will be around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free
>>> service for a certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get
>>> paid somehow, from someone, from somewhere)
>>>
>>> These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true
>>> severity of such  disasters  unravel over a period of time... sometimes
>>> weeks, sometimes months, and in some cases years !
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>
>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>> *Sent: *Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>>
>>> It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything
>>> else but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose
>>> your shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers
>>> will pay for.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are
>>>> humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite]
>>>> internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone
>>>> internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline
>>>> to power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or
>>>> pray, everything is dead in the water.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general
>>>>> cleanup like orphanages   The power is the major issue.  All poles and
>>>>> utilities are offline outside of the major port area that has buried
>>>>> utilities.  Generators are being flown in every day  word here is 6-9
>>>>> months for power to be restored. Fiber phone and cable providers are
>>>>> crippled and many of the towers here have most of the equipment not just
>>>>> damaged but totally missing.  What is there still is water damaged or has
>>>>> fried Ethernet from water infiltration
>>>>> But power is the major issue in the USVI also
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just
>>>>> cut and run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become
>>>>> wealthy, never have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody
>>>>> will have smartmeters and starbucks
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than
>>>>>> a lot of other Caribbean islands.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind
>>>>>>> and/or solar power.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Erich Kaiser
>>>>>>> North Central Tower
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>> Office: 630-621-4804 <(630)%20621-4804>
>>>>>>> Cell: 630-777-9291 <(630)%20777-9291>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
>>>>>>>> Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
>>>>>>>> supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and 
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> may be optimistic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.ï¿1Ž2
>>>>>>>> ï¿1Ž2
>>>>>>>> I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.ï¿1Ž2 I am
>>>>>>>> wondering of anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks 
>>>>>>>> in PR?
>>>>>>>> ï¿1Ž2
>>>>>>>> Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2
>>>>>>>> meter and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any
>>>>>>>> infrastructure damage.ï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2 Here in Utah, our county emergency 
>>>>>>>> center
>>>>>>>> has fully functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.ï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2
>>>>>>>> ï¿1Ž2
>>>>>>>> Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church
>>>>>>>> folk that work with emergency preparedness.ï¿1Ž2
>>>>>>>> ï¿1Ž2
>>>>>>>> I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey
>>>>>>>> IP.ï¿1Ž2 Could certainly keep slow speed email going.ï¿1Ž2
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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