I saw that on news..they need gasoline for generators..I have seen the COWs military uses during war games at McGregor and White Sands Missile Ranges..they have a section of Fort Bliss where they store these...they look like Glen Martin telescoping towers on trailers...wonder if we could send some of these for rescue and recovery ?
On Sep 26, 2017 7:17 PM, "Steve Jones" <[email protected]> wrote: > I just read an article about people being pissed cause they haven't lifted > the act that bans coastal shipping to non us ships. they lifted it for > Harvey and Irma, but not this one. everybody is making a big stink, the > problem is, the ports are damaged, theres limited offload capacity and > ships are queued. > This is crazy, youd think they could bring in some of those military > bridging vehicle to make a bridge out to some barges made into temporary > docks or something. > > I don't think people realize you cant land cargo planes on damaged > tarmacs. Its almost worth reaching out to the cartels at this point, they > can move high volumes of cargo into inaccessible areas like nobodys business > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Brian Webster <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA systems >> were down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS, and USPS >> are not operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR only with >> very big spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami. Logistics is a >> big issue right now. I have not had any direct or specific requests from >> Gino yet. >> >> >> >> Thank You, >> >> Brian Webster >> >> 214 Eggleston Hill Rd. >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g> >> >> Cooperstown, NY 13326 >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g> >> >> (607) 643-4055 Office >> >> (607) 435-3988 Mobile >> >> (208) 692-1898 Fax >> Skype: Radiowebst >> >> www.wirelessmapping.com >> >> www.Broadband-Mapping.com >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:26 AM >> *To:* Animal Farm >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino >> >> >> >> How do we ship gear to Gino? Do shipments all go by plane? Boat? And >> more help is needed there in remote areas according to Puerto Rican Club >> here in El Paso that is collecting money for relief. >> >> >> >> On Sep 25, 2017 10:47 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I am sure he serves some critical facilities. >> >> >> >> *From:* Steve Jones >> >> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 10:33 AM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino >> >> >> >> that would be an issue to take up with WECAT, they should have contacts >> for logistics. If gino serves any critical facilities (hospitals, long term >> care, fire/rescue/ems/military/municipality/etc) stuff like that may be >> able to find its way onto military transport >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I would imagine they'd have to go by boat... not sure how quick you could >> get it there. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Is there a way to ship you COWs? I can build a few and send them. Not >> sure if I can get them to you fast enough to help. >> >> >> >> *From:* Gino A. Villarini >> >> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino >> >> >> >> Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded). Need >> Gens, COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.) >> >> >> >> *From: *Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Lewis Bergman < >> [email protected]> >> *Reply-To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> *Date: *Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM >> *To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino >> >> >> >> Yep, exactly what I said. >> >> >> >> >> >> *Gino A. Villarini* >> >> President >> >> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >> >> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring >> internet service..... >> >> >> >> May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve >> our Customers, and that is how we earn a living... >> >> >> >> Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns... >> >> One.... How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our >> Infrastructure. >> >> Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ? Do we have any >> left who are able to use the service and pay for it ? >> >> >> >> Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the Customers >> (end users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it, then such >> functional infrastructure is of little value. >> >> >> >> (I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just >> pointing to realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of >> us will be around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free >> service for a certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get >> paid somehow, from someone, from somewhere) >> >> >> >> These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true >> severity of such disasters unravel over a period of time... sometimes >> weeks, sometimes months, and in some cases years ! >> >> >> >> Regards. >> >> >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g> >> Miami, FL 33155 >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g> >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518> >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: >> [email protected] >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino >> >> It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything >> else but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose >> your shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers >> will pay for. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are >> humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite] >> internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone >> internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline >> to power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or >> pray, everything is dead in the water. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general >> cleanup like orphanages The power is the major issue. All poles and >> utilities are offline outside of the major port area that has buried >> utilities. Generators are being flown in every day word here is 6-9 >> months for power to be restored. Fiber phone and cable providers are >> crippled and many of the towers here have most of the equipment not just >> damaged but totally missing. What is there still is water damaged or has >> fried Ethernet from water infiltration >> >> But power is the major issue in the USVI also >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut >> and run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy, >> never have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have >> smartmeters and starbucks >> >> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a >> lot of other Caribbean islands. >> >> >> >> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind and/or >> solar power. >> >> >> >> >> >> Erich Kaiser >> >> North Central Tower >> >> [email protected] >> >> Office: 630-621-4804 <(630)%20621-4804> >> >> Cell: 630-777-9291 <(630)%20777-9291> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. >> Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short >> supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that >> may be optimistic. >> >> >> >> bp >> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> >> >> On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, [email protected] wrote: >> >> I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.ï¿1Ž2 >> >> ï¿1Ž2 >> >> I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.ï¿1Ž2 I am wondering of >> anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR? >> >> ï¿1Ž2 >> >> Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter >> and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure >> damage.ï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2 Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully >> functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.ï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2 >> >> ï¿1Ž2 >> >> Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that >> work with emergency preparedness.ï¿1Ž2 >> >> ï¿1Ž2 >> >> I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.ï¿1Ž2 >> Could certainly keep slow speed email going.ï¿1Ž2 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
