I am sure he serves some critical facilities.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 10:33 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

that would be an issue to take up with WECAT, they should have contacts for 
logistics. If gino serves any critical facilities (hospitals, long term care, 
fire/rescue/ems/military/municipality/etc) stuff like that may be able to find 
its way onto military transport

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:

  I would imagine they'd have to go by boat... not sure how quick you could get 
it there.


  On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

    Is there a way to ship you COWs?  I can build a few and send them.  Not 
sure if I can get them to you fast enough to help.  

    From: Gino A. Villarini 
    Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

    Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded).  Need 
Gens, COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.)

    From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Lewis Bergman 
<[email protected]>
    Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
    Date: Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM
    To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino


    Yep, exactly what I said.





          Gino A. Villarini
         
          President 
          Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 



    On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> 
wrote:

      It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring 
internet service.....

      May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve 
our Customers, and that is how we earn a living... 

      Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns... 
      One.... How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our 
Infrastructure.
      Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ?  Do we have any 
left who are able to use the service and pay for it ? 

      Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the Customers 
(end users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it, then such 
functional infrastructure is of little value.

      (I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just 
pointing to realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of us 
will be around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free service 
for a certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get paid somehow, 
from someone, from somewhere)

      These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true 
severity of such  disasters  unravel over a period of time... sometimes weeks, 
sometimes months, and in some cases years !

      Regards.

      Faisal Imtiaz
      Snappy Internet & Telecom
      7266 SW 48 Street
      Miami, FL 33155
      Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

      Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]


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        From: "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]>
        To: [email protected]
        Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

        It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything 
else but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose 
your shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers 
will pay for.

        On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners <[email protected]> 
wrote:

          Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events 
are humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite] 
internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone 
internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline to 
power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or pray, 
everything is dead in the water.



          On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House 
<[email protected]> wrote:

            I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and 
general cleanup like orphanages   The power is the major issue.  All poles and 
utilities are offline outside of the major port area that has buried utilities. 
 Generators are being flown in every day  word here is 6-9 months for power to 
be restored. Fiber phone and cable providers are crippled and many of the 
towers here have most of the equipment not just damaged but totally missing.  
What is there still is water damaged or has fried Ethernet from water 
infiltration 
            But power is the major issue in the USVI also 

            Sent from my iPhone

            On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones <[email protected]> 
wrote:


              With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, 
just cut and run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become 
wealthy, never have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will 
have smartmeters and starbucks
              On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are 
wealthier than a lot of other Caribbean islands.


                On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                  I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more 
wind  and/or solar power.  


                  Erich Kaiser 
                  North Central Tower
                  [email protected]
                  Office: 630-621-4804
                  Cell: 630-777-9291


                  On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                    From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the 
lack thereof. Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely 
short supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and 
that may be optimistic.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, [email protected] wrote:

                      I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.ï¿1Ž2
                      ï¿1Ž2
                      I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.ï¿1Ž2 I 
am wondering of anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
                      ï¿1Ž2
                      Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability 
there, but 2 meter and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any 
infrastructure damage.ï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2 Here in Utah, our county emergency center has 
fully functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.ï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2
                      ï¿1Ž2
                      Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS 
church folk that work with emergency preparedness.ï¿1Ž2
                      ï¿1Ž2
                      I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to 
convey IP.ï¿1Ž2 Could certainly keep slow speed email going.ï¿1Ž2






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