Customer devices ( phones laptops etc ) should show the their signal as seen by the AP as well as the signal it sees...

On 02/01/2018 01:15 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>>It doesn't matter if the wireless device can hear the AP, it matters that the mobile device can talk to the AP with a respectable signal level.

Amen Brother Josh !
Hallelujah ! That's the Truth !

:)


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    *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]>
    *To: *[email protected]
    *Sent: *Thursday, February 1, 2018 3:54:41 PM
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range?

    Again, last time, people need to stop looking for "the most powerful
    long range AP" :)

    It doesn't matter if the wireless device can hear the AP, it matters
    that the mobile device can talk to the AP with a respectable signal
    level.

    Remember, you don't want a bunch of low signal devices bringing
    overall capacity down. You don't want your APs to hear nearby APs.
    You want good TX AND RX signal on each device. My UniFi APs are
    actually set to not let devices maintain connection below a -74. I
    overlap APs accordingly, only only have 2 using 2.4GHz at all (set
    to lower power). Everything else is 5GHz.

    I can walk out to the street, walk way out to the street behind my
    barn, and I have coverage everywhere. My APs in the front of the
    property see the APs in the back with around an -84 to -88
    depending. Also covers from basement to second floor.

    If I upgrade an AP, devices instantly roam to another nearby AP and
    don't drop their stream or sessions.

    On Feb 1, 2018 11:27 AM, "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        That's certainly true.

        ------ Original Message ------
        From: "Dan Parrish" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
        To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        Sent: 2/1/2018 12:25:52 PM
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range?

            More gain at the AP doesn't help hidden node problems
            between handsets.

            --dan



            On 2/1/2018 11:24 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

                I'd suggest more /Tx Power/ at the AP doesn't help with
                the tiny handset/laptop.  More gain ought to.

                ------ Original Message ------
                From: "Dan Parrish" <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>>
                To: "[email protected]" <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>>
                Sent: 2/1/2018 12:21:03 PM
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range?

                    I agree that the square original Unifi AC PRO model
                    wasn't the best "value," but I used several of them
                    across the street just fine. Was about 200 feet
                    through at least two exterior stucco walls, so
                    seemed pretty good.

                    More gain at the AP doesn't change the physics of
                    the (assumed) handset having a tiny antenna with
                    awful radiation patterns. For this reason, I don't
                    believe in "long-range" access points nowadays.
                    Where it makes sense, try to place two or more
                    access points closer to your usage areas instead of
                    one centrally-located one. The days of one access
                    point in the middle of the warehouse are over, IMO.

                    --dan



                    On 2/1/2018 1:18 AM, TJ Trout wrote:

                        I'm talking about the first ever unifi AC ap, it
                        was junk.

                        You had to have line of site to connect to the
                        stupid thing (almost), but seriously like 15ft
                        range @ 5ghz, maybe 25ft @ 2.4ghz

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                        On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:48 PM, Josh Baird
                        <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                            Yes - I can confirm that the new-ish Lites
                            are 802.3af.

                            On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 6:25 PM, Eric Kuhnke
                            <[email protected]
                            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                                I have a bunch of the UAP-AC-LITE
                                (802.11ac, 2x2, dual band) which are
                                like $79. The ones I have are 24VDC
                                gigabit only. Have heard that the newest
                                shipping version of the same model does
                                support 802.3af power now, which is
                                convenient. Don't quite understand how
                                TJ wasn't happy with them being a "flop".

                                If you want a properly set up Unifi
                                controller virtual machine or physical
                                system on a network, it does take a bit
                                of Linux knowledge to do it right, and
                                ensure that it can be continually updated.

                                On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Josh
                                Baird <[email protected]
                                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                                    Unifi AC Pro/Lite is just fine.  We
                                    use them everywhere.

                                    On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:35 PM, TJ
                                    Trout <[email protected]
                                    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                                        I guess I need more penetration
                                        or another e400, but they can't
                                        seamlessly roam right?

                                        On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:06 AM,
                                        Dave <[email protected]
                                        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                                            E400 Hands down.. We are
                                            using them every where.
                                            Have not tried new 410 yet
                                            but was very impressed with 400



                                            On 01/31/2018 10:53 AM, TJ
                                            Trout wrote:

                                                First I started out with
                                                Ubiquiti AC AP ceiling
                                                mount the original
                                                version which was a
                                                complete flop and waste
                                                of money. I didn't
                                                upgraded to the cambium
                                                e400 but I've moved into
                                                a larger house now and
                                                the coverage is not very
                                                good.

                                                What is the best option
                                                currently for the
                                                longest range most
                                                reliable ceiling mount
                                                AP available?

                                                Thanks!!

                                                TJ


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