They sure sound needy. 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

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The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----

From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 5:30:18 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range? 



The design was created to meet the needs of the owner. 


On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Adam Moffett < [email protected] > wrote: 




Nobody's saying you're wrong, but aren't you kind of overbuilding your home 
WiFi? 




------ Original Message ------ 
From: "Josh Reynolds" < [email protected] > 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: 2/1/2018 3:54:42 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range? 



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Again, last time, people need to stop looking for "the most powerful long range 
AP" :) 


It doesn't matter if the wireless device can hear the AP, it matters that the 
mobile device can talk to the AP with a respectable signal level. 


Remember, you don't want a bunch of low signal devices bringing overall 
capacity down. You don't want your APs to hear nearby APs. You want good TX AND 
RX signal on each device. My UniFi APs are actually set to not let devices 
maintain connection below a -74. I overlap APs accordingly, only only have 2 
using 2.4GHz at all (set to lower power). Everything else is 5GHz. 


I can walk out to the street, walk way out to the street behind my barn, and I 
have coverage everywhere. My APs in the front of the property see the APs in 
the back with around an -84 to -88 depending. Also covers from basement to 
second floor. 


If I upgrade an AP, devices instantly roam to another nearby AP and don't drop 
their stream or sessions. 




On Feb 1, 2018 11:27 AM, "Adam Moffett" < [email protected] > wrote: 

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That's certainly true. 


------ Original Message ------ 
From: "Dan Parrish" < [email protected] > 
To: " [email protected] " < [email protected] > 
Sent: 2/1/2018 12:25:52 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range? 



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More gain at the AP doesn't help hidden node problems between handsets. 

--dan 




On 2/1/2018 11:24 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: 

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I'd suggest more Tx Power at the AP doesn't help with the tiny handset/laptop. 
More gain ought to. 


------ Original Message ------ 
From: "Dan Parrish" < [email protected] > 
To: "[email protected]" < [email protected] > 
Sent: 2/1/2018 12:21:03 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range? 



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I agree that the square original Unifi AC PRO model wasn't the best "value," 
but I used several of them across the street just fine. Was about 200 feet 
through at least two exterior stucco walls, so seemed pretty good. 

More gain at the AP doesn't change the physics of the (assumed) handset having 
a tiny antenna with awful radiation patterns. For this reason, I don't believe 
in "long-range" access points nowadays. Where it makes sense, try to place two 
or more access points closer to your usage areas instead of one 
centrally-located one. The days of one access point in the middle of the 
warehouse are over, IMO. 

--dan 




On 2/1/2018 1:18 AM, TJ Trout wrote: 

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I'm talking about the first ever unifi AC ap, it was junk. 


You had to have line of site to connect to the stupid thing (almost), but 
seriously like 15ft range @ 5ghz, maybe 25ft @ 2.4ghz 


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On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:48 PM, Josh Baird < [email protected] > wrote: 

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Yes - I can confirm that the new-ish Lites are 802.3af. 


On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 6:25 PM, Eric Kuhnke < [email protected] > wrote: 

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I have a bunch of the UAP-AC-LITE (802.11ac, 2x2, dual band) which are like 
$79. The ones I have are 24VDC gigabit only. Have heard that the newest 
shipping version of the same model does support 802.3af power now, which is 
convenient. Don't quite understand how TJ wasn't happy with them being a 
"flop". 

If you want a properly set up Unifi controller virtual machine or physical 
system on a network, it does take a bit of Linux knowledge to do it right, and 
ensure that it can be continually updated. 



On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Josh Baird < [email protected] > wrote: 

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Unifi AC Pro/Lite is just fine. We use them everywhere. 




On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:35 PM, TJ Trout < [email protected] > wrote: 



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I guess I need more penetration or another e400, but they can't seamlessly roam 
right? 




On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Dave < [email protected] > wrote: 



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E400 Hands down.. We are using them every where. 
Have not tried new 410 yet but was very impressed with 400 





On 01/31/2018 10:53 AM, TJ Trout wrote: 

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First I started out with Ubiquiti AC AP ceiling mount the original version 
which was a complete flop and waste of money. I didn't upgraded to the cambium 
e400 but I've moved into a larger house now and the coverage is not very good. 


What is the best option currently for the longest range most reliable ceiling 
mount AP available? 


Thanks!! 


TJ 



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