Multiple streaming devices, gaming, home fileserver / NAS, small VM
cluster, and some VoIP. There's also a bit of 10G fiber through the house...

On Feb 1, 2018 4:17 PM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Nobody's saying you're wrong, but aren't you kind of overbuilding your
> home WiFi?
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 2/1/2018 3:54:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range?
>
> Again, last time, people need to stop looking for "the most powerful long
> range AP" :)
>
> It doesn't matter if the wireless device can hear the AP, it matters that
> the mobile device can talk to the AP with a respectable signal level.
>
> Remember, you don't want a bunch of low signal devices bringing overall
> capacity down. You don't want your APs to hear nearby APs. You want good TX
> AND RX signal on each device. My UniFi APs are actually set to not let
> devices maintain connection below a -74. I overlap APs accordingly, only
> only have 2 using 2.4GHz at all (set to lower power). Everything else is
> 5GHz.
>
> I can walk out to the street, walk way out to the street behind my barn,
> and I have coverage everywhere. My APs in the front of the property see the
> APs in the back with around an -84 to -88 depending. Also covers from
> basement to second floor.
>
> If I upgrade an AP, devices instantly roam to another nearby AP and don't
> drop their stream or sessions.
>
> On Feb 1, 2018 11:27 AM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That's certainly true.
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Dan Parrish" <tci...@outlook.com>
>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Sent: 2/1/2018 12:25:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range?
>>
>> More gain at the AP doesn't help hidden node problems between handsets.
>>
>> --dan
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/1/2018 11:24 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>
>> I'd suggest more *Tx Power* at the AP doesn't help with the tiny
>> handset/laptop.  More gain ought to.
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Dan Parrish" <tci...@outlook.com>
>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> <af@afmug.com>
>> Sent: 2/1/2018 12:21:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range?
>>
>> I agree that the square original Unifi AC PRO model wasn't the best
>> "value," but I used several of them across the street just fine. Was about
>> 200 feet through at least two exterior stucco walls, so seemed pretty good.
>>
>> More gain at the AP doesn't change the physics of the (assumed) handset
>> having a tiny antenna with awful radiation patterns. For this reason, I
>> don't believe in "long-range" access points nowadays. Where it makes sense,
>> try to place two or more access points closer to your usage areas instead
>> of one centrally-located one. The days of one access point in the middle of
>> the warehouse are over, IMO.
>>
>> --dan
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/1/2018 1:18 AM, TJ Trout wrote:
>>
>> I'm talking about the first ever unifi AC ap, it was junk.
>>
>> You had to have line of site to connect to the stupid thing (almost), but
>> seriously like 15ft range @ 5ghz, maybe 25ft @ 2.4ghz
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:48 PM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes - I can confirm that the new-ish Lites are 802.3af.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 6:25 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a bunch of the UAP-AC-LITE (802.11ac, 2x2, dual band) which are
>>>> like $79. The ones I have are 24VDC gigabit only. Have heard that the
>>>> newest shipping version of the same model does support 802.3af power now,
>>>> which is convenient. Don't quite understand how TJ wasn't happy with them
>>>> being a "flop".
>>>>
>>>> If you want a properly set up Unifi controller virtual machine or
>>>> physical system on a network, it does take a bit of Linux knowledge to do
>>>> it right, and ensure that it can be continually updated.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Unifi AC Pro/Lite is just fine.  We use them everywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:35 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess I need more penetration or another e400, but they can't
>>>>>> seamlessly roam right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Dave <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> E400 Hands down.. We are using them every where.
>>>>>>> Have not tried new 410 yet but was very impressed with 400
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 01/31/2018 10:53 AM, TJ Trout wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First I started out with Ubiquiti AC AP ceiling mount the original
>>>>>>> version which was a complete flop and waste of money. I didn't upgraded 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> the cambium e400 but I've moved into a larger house now and the 
>>>>>>> coverage is
>>>>>>> not very good.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is the best option currently for the longest range most
>>>>>>> reliable ceiling mount AP available?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>

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