>>Nobody's saying you're wrong, but aren't you kind of overbuilding your home 
>>WiFi? 

Yes, that is required for ubiquitous coverage and roaming ! 

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> From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 5:17:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range?

> Nobody's saying you're wrong, but aren't you kind of overbuilding your home
> WiFi?

> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Josh Reynolds" < [email protected] >
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: 2/1/2018 3:54:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range?

>> Again, last time, people need to stop looking for "the most powerful long 
>> range
>> AP" :)

>> It doesn't matter if the wireless device can hear the AP, it matters that the
>> mobile device can talk to the AP with a respectable signal level.

>> Remember, you don't want a bunch of low signal devices bringing overall 
>> capacity
>> down. You don't want your APs to hear nearby APs. You want good TX AND RX
>> signal on each device. My UniFi APs are actually set to not let devices
>> maintain connection below a -74. I overlap APs accordingly, only only have 2
>> using 2.4GHz at all (set to lower power). Everything else is 5GHz.

>> I can walk out to the street, walk way out to the street behind my barn, and 
>> I
>> have coverage everywhere. My APs in the front of the property see the APs in
>> the back with around an -84 to -88 depending. Also covers from basement to
>> second floor.

>> If I upgrade an AP, devices instantly roam to another nearby AP and don't 
>> drop
>> their stream or sessions.

>> On Feb 1, 2018 11:27 AM, "Adam Moffett" < [email protected] > wrote:

>>> That's certainly true.

>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>> From: "Dan Parrish" < [email protected] >
>>> To: " [email protected] " < [email protected] >
>>> Sent: 2/1/2018 12:25:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range?

>>>> More gain at the AP doesn't help hidden node problems between handsets.

>>>> --dan

>>>> On 2/1/2018 11:24 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

>>>>> I'd suggest more Tx Power at the AP doesn't help with the tiny 
>>>>> handset/laptop.
>>>>> More gain ought to.

>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>> From: "Dan Parrish" < [email protected] >
>>>>> To: "[email protected]" < [email protected] >
>>>>> Sent: 2/1/2018 12:21:03 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range?

>>>>>> I agree that the square original Unifi AC PRO model wasn't the best 
>>>>>> "value," but
>>>>>> I used several of them across the street just fine. Was about 200 feet 
>>>>>> through
>>>>>> at least two exterior stucco walls, so seemed pretty good.

>>>>>> More gain at the AP doesn't change the physics of the (assumed) handset 
>>>>>> having a
>>>>>> tiny antenna with awful radiation patterns. For this reason, I don't 
>>>>>> believe in
>>>>>> "long-range" access points nowadays. Where it makes sense, try to place 
>>>>>> two or
>>>>>> more access points closer to your usage areas instead of one 
>>>>>> centrally-located
>>>>>> one. The days of one access point in the middle of the warehouse are 
>>>>>> over, IMO.

>>>>>> --dan

>>>>>> On 2/1/2018 1:18 AM, TJ Trout wrote:

>>>>>>> I'm talking about the first ever unifi AC ap, it was junk.

>>>>>>> You had to have line of site to connect to the stupid thing (almost), 
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> seriously like 15ft range @ 5ghz, maybe 25ft @ 2.4ghz

>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:48 PM, Josh Baird < [email protected] > 
>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>> Yes - I can confirm that the new-ish Lites are 802.3af.

>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 6:25 PM, Eric Kuhnke < [email protected] > 
>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> I have a bunch of the UAP-AC-LITE (802.11ac, 2x2, dual band) which 
>>>>>>>>> are like $79.
>>>>>>>>> The ones I have are 24VDC gigabit only. Have heard that the newest 
>>>>>>>>> shipping
>>>>>>>>> version of the same model does support 802.3af power now, which is 
>>>>>>>>> convenient.
>>>>>>>>> Don't quite understand how TJ wasn't happy with them being a "flop".

>>>>>>>>> If you want a properly set up Unifi controller virtual machine or 
>>>>>>>>> physical
>>>>>>>>> system on a network, it does take a bit of Linux knowledge to do it 
>>>>>>>>> right, and
>>>>>>>>> ensure that it can be continually updated.

>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Josh Baird < [email protected] > 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> Unifi AC Pro/Lite is just fine. We use them everywhere.

>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:35 PM, TJ Trout < [email protected] > wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> I guess I need more penetration or another e400, but they can't 
>>>>>>>>>>> seamlessly roam
>>>>>>>>>>> right?

>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Dave < [email protected] > wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> E400 Hands down.. We are using them every where.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Have not tried new 410 yet but was very impressed with 400

>>>>>>>>>>>> On 01/31/2018 10:53 AM, TJ Trout wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> First I started out with Ubiquiti AC AP ceiling mount the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> original version which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a complete flop and waste of money. I didn't upgraded to the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cambium e400
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I've moved into a larger house now and the coverage is not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> very good.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the best option currently for the longest range most 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reliable ceiling
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mount AP available?

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>> TJ

>>>>>>>>>>>> --

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