I made that point during a legislative conference call.  Ping has a payload 
area.  

Ping me baby, ping me so goood!

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 9:24 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] blocking

I bet we could embed porn in the data portion of ICMP echo requests.  


------ Original Message ------
From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 2/6/2018 11:22:53 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] blocking

  Cannot be a 3rd party solution?  All ISP's must re-invent the same wheel.

  For an exhaustive list show all Layer7 protocols.   If the protocol can send 
binary, then it can send porn.  If the protocol can send text, then it can send 
base64 encoded porn.  

  They're saying internet while thinking of the web, but even that is not easy 
to monitor from the network side.  Install the best porn blocking network 
appliance in the world and then open a VPN connection to see it completely 
circumvented.  If you install something on the endpoint rather than the 
network, then the user has access to tamper with it.  Kids are clever, they 
have free time, and they have motive.  Once one figures out how to bypass your 
blocking he'll show his buddies and then then porn is back on.



  ------ Original Message ------
  From: [email protected]
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: 2/6/2018 11:09:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] blocking

    The proposed solution is that any ISP over 500 customers has to provide 
some kind of blocking technology to prevent harm to minors.  And it cannot be a 
3rd party solution.

    I want to come up with an exhaustive list of all the potential ways minors 
can select harmful things on the internet.  There is more than just web pages 
out there.  

    From: Zach Underwood 
    Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 9:01 AM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] blocking

    Are you talking about 
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/04/states-introduce-dubious-legislation-ransom-internet
 this style of blocking?  
    If you are talking about that style of blocking then as ISP we fight this 
as it is not the ISP job to block. 

    If someone wants to block this type of content when the parent should be in 
change of installing blocking software and picking what should be blocked.

    On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 10:48 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

      I have some proposed legislation I am facing about porn blocking again.  
But they are not defining the type of service.  It is one thing to block web 
traffic, but how about netflix or twitter or skype or......

      I want to play defense here and force the lawmakers to define exactly 
what we need to block.
      So can you guys help me develop a list of all the things we would have to 
analyze and block if we were going to attempt to create a true device that 
protects kids.






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    Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA) 
    My website

    advance-networking.com

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