Being able to load a 450m AP with 80 subs and deliver 30mbps service to all
of them at peak Netflix time in a 20mhz channel without breaking a sweat is
worth every penny.

But it’s one tool in the tool box and isn’t the best solution for every
deployment.

2 cents

-sean



On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:32 PM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> The more I dig into MU-MIMO, the more I realize it's not all that great.
>
> I am far more excited by the 9 client simultaneous transmissions in
> 802.11ax via OFDMA.
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 8:00 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 450 still does a few things that ePMP doesn't.
> > Plus there's that 14 chain MU-MIMO thing......ePMP will probably never
> have
> > something like that.
> > UI is still sluggish on ePMP.
> >
> > On the other hand ePMP has gotten so many feature improvements over these
> > past few years that it's gotten really hard to argue with the value it
> > provides.
> >
> >
> > ------ Original Message ------
> > From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Sent: 2/12/2018 8:27:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp
> >
> > The UI server was probably the worst I have ever seen.
> >
> > So, less than 25 subs per site, what speed packages do you sell to those
> 25?
> >
> > Packetflux GPS sync.
> >
> > From: Joe Novak
> > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 5:20 PM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp
> >
> > What didn't you like about it? The interface came a long way since the
> early
> > days of EPMP. We've got quite a bit deployed. A lot of people are having
> > weird GPS situations come up with the on-board GPS, we have this problem
> > once in a while too. Our packetflux sites are rock solid though. That is
> > assuming density isn't more then 25 per AP, because then I don't exactly
> > have enough experience with it. Most of our APs are sitting right around
> 25
> > customers, and according to airtime we still have quite a bit of room.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Jaime Solorza <
> losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I separated frequencies to three I found cleanest on AFx5s...On Rockets
> >> and Powerbeams I choose one frequency and shut off the rest on APs and
> on
> >> PowerBeams I only use two...this method has worked well since August of
> 2017
> >> when I replaced all the radios on this network and have had to change
> them
> >> since.  Two of the WISPs live in Fabens and work with us on issues.  The
> >> other one from El Paso uses my services once in a while and works with
> us as
> >> well.  Texas Gas put up allot of 5GHz units around Fabens but still no
> >> issues. I used larger dishes at Wells and lift stations as well.
> >>
> >> Jaime Solorza
> >>
> >> On Feb 12, 2018 4:50 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Two AF5x on same tower, One AP on second tower 20 ft away...all other
> >>> radios within 4 mile radius...
> >>>
> >>> Jaime Solorza
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 12, 2018 4:43 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> All on the same tower, right?
> >>>>
> >>>> From: Jaime Solorza
> >>>> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 4:41 PM
> >>>> To: Animal Farm
> >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes..I have two AF5X links as PTP and 25 radios all in 5 GHz off 4 APs
> >>>> in Fabens, Texas sharing spectrum with 3 WISPs...no issues...
> >>>>
> >>>> Jaime Solorza
> >>>>
> >>>> On Feb 12, 2018 4:32 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Talking to a friend that wants to build a small wisp.  He is about
> 5.5
> >>>>> miles from a backbone connection.  I would suggest AF5X to him but
> he is
> >>>>> gonna want to use 5 GHz for his wisp I presume.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can an AF5X and some 5 GHz cambium (or others) access points
> peacefully
> >>>>> coexist on a tower?
> >>>>> Very rural area.  Not expecting much interference other than home
> >>>>> routers.
> >
> >
>

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