Not everyone uses the Internet at the same time bud.

My point is that we have APs with 80 subs on 30mbps package and the sector
hasn’t gotten past 80% utilization.

Try that with a Wi-Fi based AP in a 20mhz channel.

-sean

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:15 PM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> You have 2.5G ports on that AP do you?
>
> Fascinating.
>
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 12:12 AM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
> > Being able to load a 450m AP with 80 subs and deliver 30mbps service to
> all
> > of them at peak Netflix time in a 20mhz channel without breaking a sweat
> is
> > worth every penny.
> >
> > But it’s one tool in the tool box and isn’t the best solution for every
> > deployment.
> >
> > 2 cents
> >
> > -sean
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:32 PM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> The more I dig into MU-MIMO, the more I realize it's not all that great.
> >>
> >> I am far more excited by the 9 client simultaneous transmissions in
> >> 802.11ax via OFDMA.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 8:00 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > 450 still does a few things that ePMP doesn't.
> >> > Plus there's that 14 chain MU-MIMO thing......ePMP will probably never
> >> > have
> >> > something like that.
> >> > UI is still sluggish on ePMP.
> >> >
> >> > On the other hand ePMP has gotten so many feature improvements over
> >> > these
> >> > past few years that it's gotten really hard to argue with the value it
> >> > provides.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------ Original Message ------
> >> > From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
> >> > To: af@afmug.com
> >> > Sent: 2/12/2018 8:27:56 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp
> >> >
> >> > The UI server was probably the worst I have ever seen.
> >> >
> >> > So, less than 25 subs per site, what speed packages do you sell to
> those
> >> > 25?
> >> >
> >> > Packetflux GPS sync.
> >> >
> >> > From: Joe Novak
> >> > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 5:20 PM
> >> > To: af@afmug.com
> >> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp
> >> >
> >> > What didn't you like about it? The interface came a long way since the
> >> > early
> >> > days of EPMP. We've got quite a bit deployed. A lot of people are
> having
> >> > weird GPS situations come up with the on-board GPS, we have this
> problem
> >> > once in a while too. Our packetflux sites are rock solid though. That
> is
> >> > assuming density isn't more then 25 per AP, because then I don't
> exactly
> >> > have enough experience with it. Most of our APs are sitting right
> around
> >> > 25
> >> > customers, and according to airtime we still have quite a bit of room.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Jaime Solorza
> >> > <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I separated frequencies to three I found cleanest on AFx5s...On
> Rockets
> >> >> and Powerbeams I choose one frequency and shut off the rest on APs
> and
> >> >> on
> >> >> PowerBeams I only use two...this method has worked well since August
> of
> >> >> 2017
> >> >> when I replaced all the radios on this network and have had to change
> >> >> them
> >> >> since.  Two of the WISPs live in Fabens and work with us on issues.
> >> >> The
> >> >> other one from El Paso uses my services once in a while and works
> with
> >> >> us as
> >> >> well.  Texas Gas put up allot of 5GHz units around Fabens but still
> no
> >> >> issues. I used larger dishes at Wells and lift stations as well.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jaime Solorza
> >> >>
> >> >> On Feb 12, 2018 4:50 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Two AF5x on same tower, One AP on second tower 20 ft away...all
> other
> >> >>> radios within 4 mile radius...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Jaime Solorza
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Feb 12, 2018 4:43 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> All on the same tower, right?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> From: Jaime Solorza
> >> >>>> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 4:41 PM
> >> >>>> To: Animal Farm
> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mini wisp
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Yes..I have two AF5X links as PTP and 25 radios all in 5 GHz off 4
> >> >>>> APs
> >> >>>> in Fabens, Texas sharing spectrum with 3 WISPs...no issues...
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Jaime Solorza
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Feb 12, 2018 4:32 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Talking to a friend that wants to build a small wisp.  He is about
> >> >>>>> 5.5
> >> >>>>> miles from a backbone connection.  I would suggest AF5X to him but
> >> >>>>> he is
> >> >>>>> gonna want to use 5 GHz for his wisp I presume.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Can an AF5X and some 5 GHz cambium (or others) access points
> >> >>>>> peacefully
> >> >>>>> coexist on a tower?
> >> >>>>> Very rural area.  Not expecting much interference other than home
> >> >>>>> routers.
> >> >
> >> >
>

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