I would like to ask Chuck if he would host a externally funded BBQ/BOF not AF, that would be pretty informal, so that we could all get some eyeball time with each other... I like Utah cause it's driveable to so much of the US and excellent flights in for the rest and it could happen in a better month than when we are doing all our spring cleaning/fall prepping.. Totally understand it that's not in the cards, but if there was a chance, would like to propose something low-key..


On 02/14/2018 02:57 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too.

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

    and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc.

    Mike Hammett
    Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
    Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
    The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>

    *From: *"Jay Weekley" <par...@cyberbroadband.net
    *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Sent: *Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

    I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA
    shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year.

    Chuck McCown wrote:
> It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica.
    > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other...
> So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I > don’t have to do much other than MC the event.
    > *From:* TJ Trout
    > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM
    > *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
     > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
    > Chuck,
> How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the > unpalatable parts of planning? > Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off into > wispa I haven't attended since... > Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ > wispamerica in 20 days?
    > TJ
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz > <fai...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
    >     >>My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect...
    >     Thus the need for a fuse !
    >     :)
    >     Faisal Imtiaz
    >     Snappy Internet & Telecom
    >     http://www.snappytelecom.net
    >     Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:(305)%20663-5518> 
     >     Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:(305)%20663-5518>
    <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518> Option 2 or
     >     Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
    >         *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
    >         *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
     >         *Sent: *Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:31:55 PM
     >         *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
    >         My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect...
     >         *From:* Adam Moffett
     >         *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:13 PM
     >         *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
     >         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

     >         That's hitting the nail on the head.  I don't want penis
     >         enlargement spam, but I definitely want to hear about surge
     >         protectors and power systems and network equipment.
     >         Spam me Chuck.  Spam me like one of your French girls.
     >         ------ Original Message ------
     >         From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com
     >         To: "af" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
     >         Sent: 2/13/2018 3:57:19 PM
     >         Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
     >             Ha... I never even realized that those weren't going to
     >             the list anymore... for some reason gmail puts it in my
     >             afmug folder.
     >             The only thing that's slightly annoying is that I get
     >             more than once because my other email address is on
     >             Chuck's list too, but I don't care enough to bother
     >             unsubscribing... I actually like getting spam about stuff
     >             that I'm interested in.
     >             On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Chuck McCown
     >             <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
     >                 Doing it this way, someone can simply unsubscribe
     >                 the spam but not the list.  And Mail Chimp will never
     >                 ever ever ever let me send that person anything again
     >                 for all of eternity.  They rate the quality of lists
     >                 for how many bounces, unsubscribes etc.  I have a
     >                 pretty good rating with them.
     >                 The alternative is going back to the Friday spam and
     >                 swap fest.
     >                 BTW, my distributors have spam rights too.  But only
     >                 on Friday morning.
     >                 I prefer the list to be free from spam like it is now
     >                 compared to before.
     >                 -----Original Message----- From: Robert Andrews
     >                 Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:14 PM
     >                 To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
     >                 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
     >                 I hope that was someone being humorous...
     >                 #OFFWITHTHEIRHEAD ...   Come on, Chuck's products are
     >                 about the most
     >                 worthy of any vendor I know.   And POE fuses...  It's
     >                 a fricken godsend!!!
     >                 BTW I need to by a bunch and wish I could buy the
     >                 little racks with
     >                 them..   Oh well, amazon...
     >                 Robert
     >                 On 02/13/2018 11:05 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
    <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
     >                     I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my
     >                     list about once a year.
     >                     You do realize that this list is my list, right?
     >                     So essentially every time I make a posting here I
     >                     am spamming you, right?
     >                     I used to do it every Friday right here on
    this list.
     >                     But I think it is cleaner and better quality to
     >                     use MailChimp.
     >                     Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp?  That
     >                     will prevent it from ever happening again.
     >                     -----Original Message----- From:
    fiber...@mail.com <mailto:fiber...@mail.com>
     >                     Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM
     >                     To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
     >                     Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
     >                     I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up
     >                     that?
     >                     I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his
     >                     email lists nor done any business with him, or
     >                     even indicate I would like to. I find it in
     >                     extremely poor taste to mine the Af list for spam
     >                     targets.
     >                     Jared

    >         Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>

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