He didn't tell you it is in his underground coffin.

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018, 6:30 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Got a guest room waiting for you.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:21 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
> Maybe this summer I might drive up to bother Chuck and Jenny....we are
> thinking of hiking near 4 corners area. Depends on Windy City schedule and
> SCADA projects.......I think I can bribe him with choice El Paso eats to
> let me tour his chop shop.
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Feb 13, 2018 5:00 PM, "Robert Andrews" <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>
>> Can I show up in Utah sometime anyways... I am dying to see the new LED
>> cavern lights...  :)
>>
>> On 02/13/2018 02:48 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>>> Yep, dead of night with greasepaint on my face....  a new list was
>>> born... again...
>>> I can name names over at WISPA that caused the problem.... I still
>>> remember names.....
>>> But I think we have kinda patched things up.
>>> They have pretty much co-opted the whole AnimalFarm idea with my
>>> blessings and I get to go to the show once a year and see y’all.
>>> As much as I would love to do an old fashioned AnimalFarm, I am too old
>>> and lazy to put on the show.
>>> *From:* Chuck Hogg
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:38 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
>>> Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer"
>>> listservs.  Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the
>>> time, and his list was moved over.  I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list,
>>> as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA.  That's when sh!t hit the fan,
>>> some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola
>>> list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I
>>> notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped
>>> from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was
>>> going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down
>>> the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born.  Ahhhh...the
>>> memories :)
>>> Regards,
>>> Chuck
>>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the
>>>     motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list
>>>     server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of
>>>     town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it
>>>     back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately,
>>>     the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a
>>>     short time on the WISPA list serv?
>>>
>>>     I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great.
>>>
>>>     On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>>>
>>>         You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got
>>> here….
>>>
>>>         The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to
>>> WISPA.          Can’t recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the
>>>         organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted
>>>         the infamous “I quit” email - and that was pretty much the end
>>>         of Part 15 and the list.  I actually think that was during a
>>>         Animal Farm session if I recall correctly.
>>>
>>>         Chuck took over the list after that - I don’t think it was
>>>         called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that.   Might have
>>>         even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic
>>> anyway.
>>>
>>>         There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on.   Yes -
>>>         it’s Chuck’s list though occasionally the members donate money
>>>         for the cost of hosting it.
>>>
>>>         This list has it’s advantages.   It’s membership leans toward a
>>>         group of people who have known each other for a very long
>>>         time.   You probably shouldn’t say bad things about WBMfg
>>>         products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair
>>>         game.  I like it since it’s a place I can say things I can’t
>>>         really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I can’t say without
>>>         blowback to WISPA).
>>>
>>>         Mark
>>>
>>>             On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>
>>>             Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too...
>>>
>>>             -----Original Message----- From: ch...@wbmfg.com
>>>             Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM
>>>             To: af@afmug.com
>>>             Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
>>>
>>>             I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list
>>>             about once a year.
>>>
>>>             You do realize that this list is my list, right?
>>>
>>>             So essentially every time I make a posting here I am
>>>             spamming you, right?
>>>
>>>             I used to do it every Friday right here on this list.
>>>             But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use
>>> MailChimp.
>>>
>>>             Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp?  That will prevent
>>>             it from ever
>>>             happening again.
>>>
>>>             -----Original Message----- From: fiber...@mail.com
>>>             Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM
>>>             To: af@afmug.com
>>>             Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
>>>
>>>             I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that?
>>>
>>>             I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists
>>>             nor done any
>>>             business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find
>>>             it in extremely
>>>             poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets.
>>>
>>>             Jared
>>>
>>>
>>>

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