What were the factors in choosing ZTE over Ubiquiti? On Wednesday, February 14, 2018, Chris Fabien <[email protected]> wrote:
> Regarding the distance, our ZTE will support up to 60 km, but max > difference of 20km between ONU on one PON. There's just a range parameter > that needs to be set. > > We ordered C+ optics and see a real optical budget of 33dB. The OLT is > about +5.5 tx and -34 min rx sensitivity. The ONU about + 0.5 tx and -28 rx > sens. > > I've been very impressed with the optical performance. > > We did test the ubnt as well. Went with ZTE > > On Feb 12, 2018 1:23 PM, "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> That's also a compelling point. >> >> It's not a simple question for sure. >> >> The other reason I would think about GPON is that if a larger company >> wanted to purchase our network down the road I have to think about what >> THEY will prefer. They'll probably prefer PON. >> >> Humans are horrible at assessing their own biases, but I probably have a >> bias towards ethernet because it's familiar. I try to bear that in mind >> too. >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: 2/12/2018 1:13:18 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT >> >> When doing full throttle Calix GPON we have about $570 invested in cpe >> electronics, splitter, ont/olt/onu etc. Everything but fiber and outdoor >> cabinets. >> >> When doing active Ethernet you can come in closer to $100 per customer. >> For non regulated greenfield, I am having a hard time convincing myself >> to do PON. >> >> *From:* Mark - Myakka Technologies >> *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 11:09 AM >> *To:* Chuck McCown >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT >> >> Chuck, >> >> PLC splitter in spice case doing full fusion splicing. >> >> >> >> *-- Best regards,Mark *mailto:[email protected] >> >> >> *Myakka Technologies, Inc.*www.MyakkaTech.com >> >> >> >> >> >> *------Monday, February 12, 2018, 12:09:32 PM, you wrote:* >> >> Are you using splitters in splice cases or in cross connect boxes? >> >> *From:* Mark - Myakka Technologies >> *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 9:55 AM >> *To:* Adam Moffett >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT >> >> Adam, >> >> There are some ranging things you have to consider. "The requirement >> when deploying ONTs are the maximum distance between two ONTs cannot >> exceed 20Km." >> >> The way we have done this is to reuse fibers as we travel down long >> stretches of roads between neighborhoods. >> >> We will deploy a 1x32 splitter in the field. We will splice that into the >> last 3 ribbons/tubes of our fiber. Example, if we were using a 144 count >> cable, ribbons 10-12 will be spliced into. After a few miles depending on >> density or distance, we will splice in another 1x32 splitter to ribbons >> 10-12. We just keep doing this until we run out of light budget. >> >> We build to the lots passed, so we are not trying to optimize max usage >> per port. Currently, we average about 50% utilization on our ports. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *-- Best regards,Mark *mailto:[email protected] >> >> >> *Myakka Technologies, Inc.*www.MyakkaTech.com >> >> >> >> >> >> *------Monday, February 12, 2018, 11:38:39 AM, you wrote:* >> >> Maybe I need to review the math. >> >> I was figuring on several small splitters along the route. I didn't >> compare to a 1x32 in the cabinet because I figured if I brought every fiber >> back to the cabinet then I didn't save anything versus ethernet. >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Mark - Myakka Technologies" <[email protected]> >> To: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> >> Sent: 2/12/2018 11:30:46 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT >> >> >> Adam, >> >> How far are you going? We are pushing almost 20 miles on a 1x32 split. >> Are you using one 1x32 or multiple smaller splitters? >> >> >> >> *-- Best regards,Mark *mailto:[email protected] >> >> >> *Myakka Technologies, Inc.*www.MyakkaTech.com >> >> >> >> >> >> *------Sunday, February 11, 2018, 10:24:30 PM, you wrote:* >> >> I'm looking at rural areas (like a few houses per mile). As I'm looking >> at hypothetical power budgets for PON, I'm finding that if I run the line >> down the road and put splitters on the pole I can split 5-6 times and then >> I'm getting too low on db to keep going down the road. At 5 or so houses >> per port, a 1U, 8 port ONT is no denser than a 1U switch. >> >> Your stated reasons for PON are all correct. The numbers just aren't >> seeming to work out for me. >> >> I also figure if I install enough fibers for AE, I can still switch to >> PON some day if I want to. >> >> We would never max out the PON port, but looking back on the past 15 >> years of growth in consumption I wonder if I should ever say "never". In AE >> I can put 100Gig in every house if I have to. I'll "never" have to do that >> as far as I can imagine, but my imagination could be limited. >> >> -Adam >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: 2/11/2018 9:28:34 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT >> >> >> A few reasons... >> >> Port cost is still fairly high. >> >> More splicing. >> >> More fiber required. >> >> Larger chassis required. >> >> More power required. >> >> More battery backup required. >> >> Consumers not even close to using up 1-2 generations back of PON capacity >> in most places. >> >> On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 7:53 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> So, why do PON and not active in these super cheap optics days? >> >> *From:* Chuck Hogg >> *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2018 6:10 PM >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT >> >> We are walking away from them and Alphion...I think Mark's product with >> Zhone is different. >> >> Regards, >> Chuck >> >> On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I think Chuck Hogg walked far away from DASAN... or maybe it was DASAN >> that rescued them from the one they walked far away form. I don't remember >> which. ;-) >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Jason McKemie" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 6, 2018 4:35:53 PM >> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT >> >> In light of finding out that Calix's offering is not going to be anywhere >> near within budget, does anyone else have any other suggestions? >> >> I found these guys, but have never heard of them: >> http://www.richerlink.com/en/products.asp?ClassID=116 >> >> It looks like DASAN also has an option - I've at least heard of them: >> http://www.dasannetworks.com/product_images/V5806_20140520174927.pdf >> >> -Jason >> >>
