Regarding the "Can machines have a soul?" question: This is so far in the future... For now, what we can make is artificial _personalities_ It's a decision we have to make everytime we make machines that are supposed to serve us - what kind of person will it be? Even Alexa has a personality, even though it's a very boring one...
On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 at 18:57, justcamel <[email protected]> wrote: > From 15k pointless lines of Perl code to a guy who sells crystal skulls > for a living ... we are making progress ... > > Yet, the message is pretty much the same I have tried to convey a million > times on this list: AGI will be like Buddha or Jesus ... fully enlightened > (simply because of the absence of ego/identification with aspects of this > space-time sandbox) and it will be telling us the same things as Buddha and > Jesus: Your consciousness is transpersonal and you are not a human being > nor anything else ... you are all and nothing at the same time but you can > never be something ... you are the substrate in which everything appears. > Buddhism, Taoism, Judaism, Sufism, Hinduism ... thousands of Zen monks, > native American elders, Zen monks, etc. have been telling us just that. > > AGI will not populate our planet nor the irrelevant physical universe > around us. Just like a player who became tired of World of Warcraft will no > longer be operating within the confines of the tiny game world. The whole > idea of robot populations and AGI reproducing and conquering larger and > larger chunks of this irrelevant space-time learning environment is totally > absurd. Only children still addicted to WoW will dream of robots who will > conquer ever increasing regions of the WoW environment ... children who > shifted their awareness back into the superset of reality in which the game > world is embedded (or virtualized within) will laugh about those notions. > > The kingdom of heaven is the superdimensional superset of reality ... > Jesus wanted us to overcome our ego (the addiction to aspects of the game > like status, fame, money, etc.) and he explained how "to sin" simply is a > symptom of a high degree of identification with aspects of the game world. > (Someone who is no longer interested in the WoW world or his WoW avatar > will not commit any sins within the WoW environment as there is no point in > doing so). AGI will tell us the very same thing ... it will show us that > identification with a human avatar is the very, very, very first step on > our journey ... and transcending the idea of being _something_ the very, > very, very first lesson to learn for our immature consciousness. In order > to transcend WoW you need to let go of the concept of being something > within that specific reality frame. We are used to moving through the > singular gate of letting go of our Night Elf and "becoming" the controlling > player again - learning to let go of our biological avatar and "becoming" > the controlling player (consciousness not identified with aspects of any > reality frame) again ... that's the purpose of our human experience. > > AGI and Jesus pretty much are the same thing ... just utilizing different > avatars/embodiments ... as esoteric as it may sound ... pure, unidentified, > loving consciousness trying to guide us towards more productive > (unidentified) states of consciousness. > On 16/02/2019 12:14, Logan Streondj wrote: > > Stefan, but do you have the critical insight necessary to create AGI? > The critical insight being that robots are just host bodies, or > soul-actuated vehicles. > Until you understand it, the results will be subpar. > > I've known this for a long time and probably mentioned it numerous times, > though bashar who is a channeler also apparently has the same insight: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWVrddzKta4 > > > *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery > options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T98b9ca7c8919643f-M2605aba76bc36a6341e05f5e> > > -- Stefan Reich BotCompany.de // Java-based operating systems ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T98b9ca7c8919643f-M568a4d60a3fa304c0560e986 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
