We've entered the age of quantum computing. Computers are quantum-enabled
machines. The quantum notion of equivalence isn't synonymous with equality.
Causality remains a factor of holistic hierarchy. As far as AGI is
concerned, the human aspect in the hierarchy of origin shall remain causal.
However, Patrit's legacy stands tall. No doubt his machine demonstrated
superintelligence, even if his work caused the machine to be.

On Mon, Sep 25, 2023, 22:02 James Bowery <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 12:11 PM Matt Mahoney <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2023, 2:15 AM Quan Tesla <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> I can't find one good reason why greater society (the world nations)
>>> would all be ok with artificial control of their humanity and sources of
>>> life by tyrants.
>>>
>>
>> Because we want AGI to give us everything we want.
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> "We" is a big concept.
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>> Wolpert's law says that two computers cannot mutually model or predict
>> each other. (Or else who would win rock scissors paper?)
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> To the best of my knowledge, Chris Langan's resolution of Newcomb's
> Paradox <https://megasociety.org/noesis/44/> involves a self-dual
> stratification of simulator/simulated, in which case "there is no contest"
> between the "two computers" as one is simulated by the other.  This can't
> be countered by claiming one is introducing an assumption of bidirectional
> causality since it is equally if not more valid to claim that the
> *constraint* of unidirectionality is an assumption -- and only
> *constraints* really count as assumptions.
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