Newcomb's paradox is another proof of Wolpert's theorem. It assumes that you and ND can both predict each others actions, and shows that this assumption leads to a contradiction. ND can simulate a copy of your mind and predict whether you will take one box or both. You can simulate ND because you are given the rules that the black box contains $1M only if you don't take the clear $1000 box. Both can't be true.
Wolpert's proof. Suppose two programs simultaneously output a bit. One wins if the bits are the same and the other wins if they are opposite. Each program has as input a copy of the source code and initial state of the other, which they can run to predict the other player's move. Who wins? Corollary. A computer (or brain) cannot simulate or model itself. It cannot predict it's own output. Proof: this is a special case of both computers identical. On Mon, Sep 25, 2023, 2:02 PM James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 12:11 PM Matt Mahoney <mattmahone...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 25, 2023, 2:15 AM Quan Tesla <quantes...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> I can't find one good reason why greater society (the world nations) >>> would all be ok with artificial control of their humanity and sources of >>> life by tyrants. >>> >> >> Because we want AGI to give us everything we want. >> > > "We" is a big concept. > > >> Wolpert's law says that two computers cannot mutually model or predict >> each other. (Or else who would win rock scissors paper?) >> > > To the best of my knowledge, Chris Langan's resolution of Newcomb's > Paradox <https://megasociety.org/noesis/44/> involves a self-dual > stratification of simulator/simulated, in which case "there is no contest" > between the "two computers" as one is simulated by the other. This can't > be countered by claiming one is introducing an assumption of bidirectional > causality since it is equally if not more valid to claim that the > *constraint* of unidirectionality is an assumption -- and only > *constraints* really count as assumptions. > > *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + > delivery options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> > Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T206dd0e37a9e7407-M8efb8b73f6fa289950b0a3f7> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T206dd0e37a9e7407-M128675954d013ead27b6fea2 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
