YKY, I am sorry you are the victim of racism. Here in the US, Asians on
average score higher than whites on IQ and academic tests, have more
education, higher income, longer life expectancy (by 5 years), lower crime
rates as both perpetrators and victims and lower imprisonment rates. It is
the opposite for Blacks. The same pattern is seen in other countries
regardless of which race is in the majority or runs the government.

Racism exists between countries too. I have visited about 60 countries and
it is everywhere. In the Caribbean, which is mostly Black, the White
minority is obviously wealthier and the poorest islands like Haiti have
fewer Whites than wealthier islands like Aruba. Hong Kong has the highest
life expectancy in the world. China has the fastest growing economy in the
world and leads the US in research papers. China's homicide rate is 1/2 the
rate of Europe, 1/10 the US, and 1/50 the Caribbean.

This is hard to explain. When I look at a US census map I see that every
city is divided into White, Black, Hispanic, and Asian sections even though
racial discrimination in housing has been illegal since the 1960's. High
tech STEM jobs mostly go to Asian and White men even though race and sex
discrimination in employment has been illegal since the 1970's and most
large companies have published policies that align with the law. College
entrance exams used to require higher scores for Asians and lower for
Blacks to achieve racial balance, but this policy was banned a few years
ago.

So why is everyone racist? Why does every country have borders to keep out
people who mostly look different or don't speak the language? Why do our
friends and neighbors mostly have the same skin color? Why are LLMs racist
in spite of our efforts? Why has the decades long effort of the media to
portray Whites and Blacks together as if race didn't matter been a failure?
Why did school bussing fail? Why did anti discrimination laws fail? Why did
DEI fail?

Maybe it is actually useful to predict a person's behavior from their
appearance. Maybe it is useful to not give children the same legal rights
as adults. Maybe it is useful when you have to choose between walking past
a group of young Black men or crossing the street to walk past a group of
older White women, even though you know your decision is racist.

If you want to eliminate racism you must eliminate the cultural and
behavioral differences between races that make racism useful. The correct
answer is that these differences exist because of discrimination, which has
opposite effects on different races, or a history of colonialism or slavery
that nobody alive today remembers. The incorrect answer is genetics. Nobody
disputes that skin color is inherited. It is somewhat controversial, but
still a fact that Blacks of West African descent excel at track and field
and some sports like basketball because they have more fast twitch muscle
and can run faster and jump higher. But it is forbidden to suggest that
there are IQ differences between races, even though we know from adopted
twin studies that IQ is mostly inherited. There aren't any recent studies
on IQ because social scientists know that if you do a study, your paper
will be rejected and you will be denounced as a racist and your work will
only be cited by white supremists and your career will be destroyed, like
how James Watson, who shared the Nobel prize for his discovery of the
structure of DNA, was fired from his position as research director at Cold
Springs for suggesting that Blacks have lower IQ because of genetics.

I think in the next century we will have a world without war, borders,
prisons, or poverty. But that doesn't help you now. I'm sorry that life
isn't fair.

-- Matt Mahoney, [email protected]

On Mon, Oct 5, 2026, 10:11 PM YKY (Yan King Yin, 甄景贤) <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Sept 2026, 02:02 Matt Mahoney, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi YKY! Do you have any experimental results for your TicTacToe or Tiny
>> Stories tests? I think a paper focused just on that would have a greater
>> chance of acceptance than a paper with lots of ideas but no supporting
>> evidence. How does your system compare with LLMs asked to solve the
>> same problems?
>>
>
> I have open-source code and the superiority of Logic Transformer has been
> verified several times by different tests.  (But the repos and
> documentation are currently rather disorganized).  I'm very confident of
> the breakthrough and will try to publish better-written papers.  But that's
> not what I'm complaining about, which is racism.
>
> The reason I'm so slow to reply is that I *know* I'm talking to a bunch
> of stubborn people who will refuse to face the problem of racism till the
> bitter end.  If Singularity is next Monday, they will remain racist till
> 11:59:59 on Sunday.
>
> We can add a clause to any company's constitution or policies, that all
> business processes are open and transparent, and eliminates discrimination,
> which can be subject to AI-assisted retroactive adjudication if disputes
> arise.  I will do that in my current DAO, but other AI companies may not
> adopt the same.
>
> In my vision for the near future, the companies that refuse to add the
> anti-racist clause will get very bad reputation and they will eventually
> succumb to public pressure.  Someone needs to make a start in this
> direction....
>
>
> I see you are using Copilot to develop your code. An obvious application
>> of a hybrid symbolic neural approach would be to ask Copilot to solve a
>> problem and let it write the code to solve the part that can be done
>> more efficiently with a symbolic approach. Simple math is like that. Can
>> you do the same with logic? Can you demonstrate the advantages of your
>> approach on existing benchmarks or non toy problems?
>>
>> -- Matt Mahoney
>>
>
> It succeeded on Tic-tac-toe and outperformed traditional Transformers,
> that was when I realized I was on to something.  Later tests with natural
> language corpuses demonstrate beyond simple games.  I think I'm ready to
> train a large model from scratch, but I'm still looking for helpers and
> busy with the political and DAO stuff.
>
> https://github.com/Cybernetic1/RL-TTT-experiments
> https://github.com/Cybernetic1/AGI-experiments
> https://github.com/Cybernetic1/AGI-prototype
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