Ben,

If you, Boris et al wish to be Don Quixote's who refuse to subject their ideas/systems to any real, empirical test, (a la Don Q), that is your right.

But the point I made is a good one, & needs insisting on. It is indeed immoral for an AGI curriculum to lead others into similar ways without providing some health warning. A proper technological field should have an insistence on empirical testing. Yours signally *doesn't*. It's psi in more ways than one.

You can indeed lead others to waste years of their lives - and yes, that is immoral. And your (I presume) subconscious recognition of this is why you responded so emotionally & extensively.

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From: "Ben Goertzel" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 2:18 PM
To: "AGI" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [agi] The Visual Alphabet

Mike,

You're in the v. unusual position of starting in a field which has no
substantive foundations whatsoever - (and is crying out for *new* ideas).
And people who do not tell you that upfront and every day, are irresponsibly
and immorally leading you astray.

Finally I see the light !!!

Bowing to the weight of your crushing moral critique, I now see the immorality
of my old ways!!!

Nevermore will I preach the false doctrine of AGI !!

From this moment onwards, I will preach only patchworks, patchabilities,
and the ineffable non-rational morphological mutabilities of raindrops !!

I see now that only a "Bio-bot" made of real biological cells could ever achieve
human-like intelligence, because these biological cells possess a unique
capability to intuitively and imaginatively comprehend the non-morphological
mutabilities and magickological beautabilities of the snowflakes, the
raindrops, the trees and the pretty little flowers... not to mention Bambi,
one must never forget Bambi !!!! ...

I understand now that algorithms and computer software can never produce
true intelligence, because they can only rearrange what has been provided
to them by human programmers.  Rather, true general intelligence must be
produced by biological cells whose trans-rational shape-ological shimmerings
are able to trans-logically enter into infinite varieties of cosmic dances
in intimate communion with the biological and physical world with which
they intersect !!!

I hereby retract all my previous statements and writings about AGI.... I will abandon the OpenCog project and prostrate myself abjectly before the shrine
of the  most holy and meta-beauteous biological raindrop !!!

Mike Tintner, you are my savior !!!


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