Ben,
If you, Boris et al wish to be Don Quixote's who refuse to subject their
ideas/systems to any real, empirical test, (a la Don Q), that is your
right.
But the point I made is a good one, & needs insisting on. It is indeed
immoral for an AGI curriculum to lead others into similar ways without
providing some health warning. A proper technological field should have an
insistence on empirical testing. Yours signally *doesn't*. It's psi in more
ways than one.
You can indeed lead others to waste years of their lives - and yes, that is
immoral. And your (I presume) subconscious recognition of this is why you
responded so emotionally & extensively.
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From: "Ben Goertzel" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 2:18 PM
To: "AGI" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [agi] The Visual Alphabet
Mike,
You're in the v. unusual position of starting in a field which has no
substantive foundations whatsoever - (and is crying out for *new* ideas).
And people who do not tell you that upfront and every day, are
irresponsibly
and immorally leading you astray.
Finally I see the light !!!
Bowing to the weight of your crushing moral critique, I now see the
immorality
of my old ways!!!
Nevermore will I preach the false doctrine of AGI !!
From this moment onwards, I will preach only patchworks, patchabilities,
and the ineffable non-rational morphological mutabilities of raindrops !!
I see now that only a "Bio-bot" made of real biological cells could ever
achieve
human-like intelligence, because these biological cells possess a unique
capability to intuitively and imaginatively comprehend the
non-morphological
mutabilities and magickological beautabilities of the snowflakes, the
raindrops, the trees and the pretty little flowers... not to mention
Bambi,
one must never forget Bambi !!!! ...
I understand now that algorithms and computer software can never produce
true intelligence, because they can only rearrange what has been provided
to them by human programmers. Rather, true general intelligence must be
produced by biological cells whose trans-rational shape-ological
shimmerings
are able to trans-logically enter into infinite varieties of cosmic dances
in intimate communion with the biological and physical world with which
they intersect !!!
I hereby retract all my previous statements and writings about AGI.... I
will
abandon the OpenCog project and prostrate myself abjectly before the
shrine
of the most holy and meta-beauteous biological raindrop !!!
Mike Tintner, you are my savior !!!
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