Tests of incremental progress are often theory-dependent though... The Wright Brothers' wind tunnel tests were meaningful to them, but not to skeptics who doubted the Wright Bros. (partly rigorous, partly intuitive) understanding of aerodynamic theory
Our current work using inference to integrate opportunistic structure-building into navigation seems relevant to us (the OpenCog team) based on our own theoretical understanding, but may seem meaningless to others with different theoretical understandings... There is no unified approach to testing proto-AGI applications yet, because there is no single, widely-accepted theory of AGI yet. Yet there are many different theories, being used to motivate many different approaches. You may not like any of these theories, which is your prerogative ;) A number of us wrote a paper on this for the most recent AI Magazine, http://aaai.org/ojs/index.php/aimagazine/article/view/2322 I gave a talk briefly summarizing some point from the paper at AGI-11@Google, the video is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OoYOjOEy6A -- Ben G On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Jim Bromer <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]>wrote: > If you...wish to be Don Quixote's who refuse to subject their > ideas/systems to any real, empirical test, (a la Don Q), that is your right. > > But the point I made is a good one, & needs insisting on... A proper > technological field should have an insistence on empirical testing. Yours > signally *doesn't*. > ------------------------------------ > > Well this is reasonable and we have all explained that we don't yet know > how to make true AGI programs that are capable of human-like learning that > would be efficient enough to watch. On the other hands most of us can > point to some actions of computer programs that certainly looks like the > work of human-like mental capabilities. > > So what would constitute a real empirical test given the fact that we are > still at the dawn of the development of true AGI? > Jim Bomer > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-11ac2389> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
