I am just saying that the ability to describe some aspects of a legitimate
field of study doesn't equate to the one belonging to the other.

 

People don't do this for other fields and I don't think they should do it
for CS.

 

I took a course in 2000 at University that was called Computer Engineering.
We were shown a language (I don't remember which one) that was designed so
that the language could prove a program was correct or not.  The professor
was really into this but couldn't program his way out of a wet paper bag and
the language and this proving technique looked childishly trivial to me.

 

I am open to someone showing me a computer language that can prove the
correctness of an arbitrarily complex system.  I don't say it is impossible
but what I saw was definitely not it.

 

David Clark

 

PS I think you actually do get what I am saying now.  Please remember that
Math isn't the only "language" that can describe some CS concepts.

 

From: Aaron Hosford [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: January-08-13 1:51 PM
To: AGI
Subject: Re: [agi] Why Logic & Maths Have Sweet FA to do with Real world
reasoning

 

I think maybe I have a hint of why we're talking past each other on this:
When I say all computation is mathematical, what I mean is that all
computation can be described mathematically. (In other words, if a
mathematician so chose, he could analyze the behavior of a program in its
totality using mathematics alone, though it would probably take him a
ridiculous amount of time and effort.) This is not the same as the claim
that programming is the same as doing math, which is completely untrue. The
act of doing math and the act of doing CS require similar cognitive
abilities, but work in totally different ways and use completely different
techniques, which rarely cross over effectively between fields.




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