On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:31 AM, John G. Rose <[email protected]> wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David Clark [mailto:[email protected]] >> >> You have no evidence to claim any knowledge of how an advanced >> intelligence
I KNOW this will not help, but since both intelligence and mathematics are ill-defined you are wasting your time, and I am saying this from a position of authority having wasted a lot of time with both. I have previously expressed my hunch that mathematics is a form of magic, or perhaps the only magic. The intuition behind this has been expressed by many researchers with sentences like "the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics" etc, and for me it stems from the very interactive way in which we develop mathematics, mathematics being tied both to our consience and our environment. I guess by this definition automated theorem proving and stuff like that is not real mathematics, maybe it is CS:) On the intelligence front I don't know how an advanced intelligence would look like, or even a more advanced than me or my grandmother's. Notoriously women and men of a certain age can't program their video recorder (maybe they are doing better now with TiVo and AppleTV, but for decades they were useless), but I am not ready to deny them their intelligence or even their IQ. I believe that once we have near-human level AI we can start experimenting and get some hard data on machine intelligence, and we know that data bring insights which currently may be totally unthinkable. With considerable delay, I noticed that no lesser an entity than the US governments NIST has been organizing workshops exactly about machine intelligence, and make the proceedings freeley available, I will be digging in this material, starting with 2012 http://www.nist.gov/el/isd/permis2012.cfm . Of course with such a notorious problem we may come out empty handed, but it's worth a try! AT ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
