I suppose you could even just call fork to call the C compiler from C, to
produce a DLL which can then be accessed by the same program. It's just a
matter of writing a library once to do it, and you're set from then on.


On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Aaron Hosford <[email protected]> wrote:

> 2.       I believe that AGI can’t move forward until programs have the
>> unlimited ability to create other programs.  This hasn’t happened yet and
>> therefore I have no proof that this capability will be more successful than
>> current approaches BUT at least it isn’t one of the techniques that we know
>> doesn’t work.
>>
> ****
>> My guess is that this isn't necessary. As long as they can change their
>> internal maps and structures in the data -- that should be close enough to
>> creating from-scratch programs to solve AI/AGI problems. But, one
>> computer's data is another computer's program.
>
>
>
> There's also Lisp (where every program is a nested list, and any properly
> formed nested list can therefore be executed as a program, one of the
> reasons Lisp has always been touted as an AI language), C# and Python
> (where a program can create a string and request it to be byte-compiled and
> executed as a program), and other interpreted or byte-compiled languages
> that work along similar lines. I don't know of any offhand, but I'm sure
> there are machine code-compiled languages that have a similar feature. This
> isn't a new feature to programming languages, it's just not a commonly used
> one.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Dimitry Volfson <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>  A couple comments below:
>>
>>
>> On 1/10/2013 11:54 AM, David Clark wrote:
>>
>>  This response is for Aaron and John.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Both, however, are mathematical. You are shadow boxing.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Again, conclusions with no supporting arguments.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Although I don’t put much value in “beliefs” or “intuition”, I am guilty
>> of a few as well.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> 1.       I believe that AGI can be created using software we have today,
>> on computers that exist today.  AGI has not been created yet so I have no
>> proof that this is true, even though I am acting as if it is.
>>
>> Probably true. Some problems can be solved with much older computers just
>> because we have many more training examples now than ever before -- that
>> can be digested by a lot of processing and the digested info can be passed
>> along to lesser power computers. And, the computing power that Watson
>> requires can be had for just $200 per hour from Amazon's service, so anyone
>> can rent a supercomputer.
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> 2.       I believe that AGI can’t move forward until programs have the
>> unlimited ability to create other programs.  This hasn’t happened yet and
>> therefore I have no proof that this capability will be more successful than
>> current approaches BUT at least it isn’t one of the techniques that we know
>> doesn’t work.****
>>
>>
>> My guess is that this isn't necessary. As long as they can change their
>> internal maps and structures in the data -- that should be close enough to
>> creating from-scratch programs to solve AI/AGI problems. But, one
>> computer's data is another computer's program.
>>
>> -- Dimitry Volfson
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