>
> When this list was formed,
> there were several people who were working on AGI projects. All but
> Ben have left.


I'm working on one, too. I'm just not public about it.


On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Matt Mahoney <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:54 PM, David Clark <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > 1.       I believe that AGI can be created using software we have today,
> on computers that exist today.  AGI has not been created yet so I have no
> proof that this is true, even though I am acting as if it is.
> >
> > 2.       I believe that AGI can’t move forward until programs have the
> unlimited ability to create other programs.  This hasn’t happened yet and
> therefore I have no proof that this capability will be more successful than
> current approaches BUT at least it isn’t one of the techniques that we know
> doesn’t work.
> >
> > I am acting as if these 2 beliefs were true while I have no proof they
> are.  Guilty as charged.
> >
> > If people on this list don’t also believe my first assumption, I don’t
> understand why they would be on this list!
>
> Minsky and Kurzweil are not on this list. When this list was formed,
> there were several people who were working on AGI projects. All but
> Ben have left.
>
> > I have many arguments that point to my second assumption being correct
> but no proof.
>
> The BASIC interpreter on my Commodore 64 had self-modifying code. It
> is an interesting concept, but not new. More importantly, it does not
> address the high cost of AGI in hardware, software, and training data.
> I do not believe (1). Computers today have nowhere near the computing
> capacity of the human brain with respect to neural models of vision,
> language, and robotics.
>
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> -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected]
>
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